Keith;
Check the SFI ratings on the two......The dampener is one of the factors in the
NHRA rule book that that must meet higher specs as ET goes down (and presumably
speed goes up)
Ed.
Keith Turk wrote:
> In my watching phase.... i thought the Fluid Dampner was always the Deal!
>
> now there is some speculation that the Fluid can actually Heat up and cause
> uneven dampening over the Rpm Range... But this could well be just Hype... I
> don't have a clue... I know all the BIG dollar Motors I have seen Lately are
> running the ATI Rattler... and since the Cost difference is Minimal.... I
> suppose I would go with the Dampner De Jour...
>
> Personally I also have the Fisher on the C motor and don't Plan on sticking
> on the Fluid Dampner.... Just works.... Why Mess with it....
>
> Keith Turk... ( Would anyone Like to come snatch this Rusted Axle out so I
> can Swap the Gears.... WOW what a Pain...)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: george mitchell <americanpartnerinrussia@erols.com>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>; David Haller
> <dhaller@techline.com>
> Cc: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Cam Doctor problems
>
> > I have to agree with you Kieth. I have not seen any of the " Big " pro
> type
> > motors or any comp motors run without a balancer. I also have a couple of
> > friends who run sprint car( direct drive stuff) and they run them too. I
> > know that it is possible( I know some blown applications just run a hub)
> but
> > I have no experience personally running without one so I wouldn't take it
> > off of of my stuff .
> > Good luck.
> > By the way are those rattler balancers any good ? I run fluid dampners on
> > mine .
> > George in "cold again " DC
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> > To: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>; David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
> > Cc: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 2:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cam Doctor problems
> >
> >
> > > Guys.... I am sure there is some truth to the fact that you can run
> > without
> > > one... but All our Mountain Motor Pro Stocks... and My Buddies Comp
> > > Eliminator are running ATI Rattlers.... ( figures I just got a Fluid
> > > dampner ) I don't know anybody down here that doesn't run a Dampner....
> > >
> > > Keith
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
> > > To: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
> > > Cc: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Cam Doctor problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dave, In 35 years of building motors I have never seen any horse power
> > > > increase on the dyno with ANY harmonic balancer. Lighter reciprocating
> > > > weight will accelerate faster, and that is why drag racers don't run
> > > > one. I run the biggest one that will fit the car to save the crank.
> > > > one of the dougs
> > > > Bonneville= Where you go fast or go home
> > > > David Haller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > List,
> > > > > Working on the car this last Thursday evening the discussion came up
> > on
> > > the
> > > > > need for a harmonic balancer on my small block. I have one of those
> > > > > expensive ones on it now and was told I do not need to have one on
> the
> > > > > engine and to run without it. It was claimed the balancer is robbing
> > me
> > > of
> > > > > horsepower unnecessarily, that the engine was already balanced
> besides
> > > real
> > > > > run time was short so the need for one was not there. What is your
> > > > > experience and opinions out there, I know you have the right ones,
> > > > > Dave Haller #93 C/GAlt
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>
> > > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 7:23 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Cam Doctor problems
> > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 02/29/2000 3:17:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > > > dahlgren@uconect.net writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > << There is a product i am not sure if you are aware of called the
> > Cam
> > > > > > Doctor(I am not sure who makes this) and Cam Pro Plus made by
> Audie
> > > > > > technology that does what you want to do it also will do all the
> > > input
> > > > > > for you. It is made for exactly what you want to do. basically
> you
> > > put
> > > > > > the cam in the fixture and hook the fixture input to a PC. then
> > > rotate
> > > > > > the cam and it will intup all the numbers for you andf has many
> > other
> > > > > > neat features.. it is a little spendy but it is the tool for the
> > job.
> > > > > > http://www.audietech.com/
> > > > > > I have no idea of their pricing but you might get some ideas
> here..
> > > > > > Dahlgren
> > > > > > EMS
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > Group,
> > > > > > Speaking of Cam Doctor, I just spent a weekend at the San
> Diego
> > > Swap
> > > > > Meet
> > > > > > with Roy Creel, this years VP of SCTA. Seems that the guys at
> McGee
> > > Cams
> > > > > had
> > > > > > a Cam Doctor that was inoperative for some reason and worked a
> deal
> > > with
> > > > > Roy
> > > > > > whereby he could use the thing if he would get it fixed.
> > > > > > Roy contacted the Cam Doctor Mfg. in Denver, made the
> > > arrangements,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > shipped it to them. It came back, supposedly fixed, but was still
> > > > > > inoperative. Several months of un-returned phone calls later, Roy
> > was
> > > in
> > > > > PHX
> > > > > > for a "Banger" seminar, then drove to Denver last week and took
> the
> > > local
> > > > > > Sheriff to the guys home to get a check from the wife.
> > > > > > Those of you who know Roy are aware of what a "straight-up"
> and
> > > > > > innovative guy he is, so, buyer beware...........Ardun Doug in CA
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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