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Re: New category restrictions

To: "Tim Schoeny" <tschoen@fuse.net>, "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Subject: Re: New category restrictions
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:03:35 -0400
Tim

Actually when you factor in vintage engines there is more like 150 classes
in this new category.

I agree with you on the American vs. Foreign car concept. Allowing an Opal
sedan or a Toyota pick-up, as an example, to run won't take anything away
from the category and may just add a new racer to LSR.

John Beckett




----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Schoeny" <tschoen@fuse.net>
To: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Cc: "Chuck Rothfuss" <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: New category restrictions


> Just to fan the fire a little here-I've got to agree with Chuck.The
proposal
> already adds 100 classes to what currently exists.I don't think(tell me if
I'm
> wrong) Chuck is proposing more classes/categories than that,  just the
ability
> to run foreign stuff(coupes & sedans) in the new classes already
proposed.I get
> a lot of interest in the Honda from people of all ages-but particularly
from
> YOUNG people.As you may know,NHRA doesn't allow foreign cars in any of
their
> categories and so the import guys went out and made up their own
format.Now
> they(NHRA) are trying to get into import racing with minimal success.My
point is
> the more restrictive you make what seems to be a good group of entry level
> catagories the less participation you're going to get-particularly from
what may
> be the next generation of racers. Another point-where are the G,H&I class
cars
> in the proposed new categories going to come from?If you dissallow foreign
stuff
> there's nothing out there.My CRX doesn't qualify for the new deal but I'd
> consider an older Honda if rules allowed.I urge you to think this one out
pretty
> hard-you may be cutting out the future.Just some ramblings from the import
> hotbed of the midwest(whaaaat?)
>                                                               Tim Schoeny
>
> Dan Warner wrote:
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > My statement re: foreign vehicles in the new category stems from a
couple of
> > things. We don't just make these things up. Input received for the past
> > couple years, at least, indicated American cars only. This input comes
from
> > the entrants themselves. If you scan entries for the GT and MS classes
as
> > they now exist they show that there are very few cars actually
competing.
> > For these cars there is a place now for them to race, the current
Modified
> > category and the current Production category. As in many cases there is
but
> > a single entry for a given class, body & engine combo. I see no need now
to
> > add several classes for no entries.
> >
> > Dan (but I'm open) Warner
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
> > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 7:21 PM
> > Subject: New category restrictions
> >
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > >    I just read through last weeks thread on the new category and one
thing
> > > about it is making me really feel like an oddball.  "Absolutely NO
> > interest
> > > in older foreign cars" ??  Since my current and future list of LSR
project
> > > cars include Datsun 510's and Mazda RX7's I guess I'd be an exception
to
> > the
> > > rule.  Then there's my partner who is preparing several older Opel's
for
> > > land=speed use. (Ascona's, GT's and a (stock) 327 Chevy powered Opel
> > > Diplomat that oughto make a fine tow vehicle.)  Could it be that only
East
> > > Coast residents are infected with this desire to be different?
> > >    If there is "absolutely NO interest" why put the "American" make
> > > restriction in the rules?  Remember, variety is the spice of life.
There
> > > are a few of us who enjoy being different.  We're acattered throughout
> > many
> > > classes, but cars like George Potter's Saab Sonnet, my "USS Wankel"
and
> > Tim
> > > Schoney's tiny Honda are enjoyed by plenty of small car fans.  What's
> > wrong
> > > with seeing a whole bunch of 60's and 70's bricks out there competing?
In
> > > the smaller displacement classes it would be a lot of fun to see
Cosworth
> > > Vega's and Pinto's compete against Alpha's and BMW's.  In any category
it
> > > seems to be more fun when there's actually some competition.  My
question
> > is
> > > why restrict variety and stifle creativity?
> > >
> > > Chuck Rothfuss
> > > LSR #510
> > > East Coast Timing Association
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 04:44 AM 6/14/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Tim,
> > > >
> > > >The only restrictions on wheelbase in Comp Coupe are the laws of
physics.
> > > >
> > > >The reason the limit is on American coupes, etc for the new category
is
> > that
> > > >there is absolutely NO interest in older foreign cars. This is
intended
> > to
> > > >be a so called muscle car category as requested by our entrants.
> > > >
> > > >Dan Warner
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Tim Schoeny <tschoen@fuse.net>
> > > >To: <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:03 PM
> > > >Subject: Comp Coup Wheelbase
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Dan,was looking at comp coupe rules and couldn't find anything on
> > > >> max/min wheelbase requirements.I did see that one of the four
possible
> > > >> requirements to get in CC was a 12" extension,but nothing on a
> > > >> maximum-is there one?
> > > >> Like your idea of a new class for older cars,but why limit it to
> > > >> AMERICAN cars? The foriegn cars of that period wern't very aero
either
> > > >> and the two seaters have to run GT or MS anyway.
> > > >>
Tim
> > > >> Schoeny
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>




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