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Re: LSR Speedometer

To: Rick <TurboRick@TurboRick.com>
Subject: Re: LSR Speedometer
From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:34:04 -0700
Rick, 2 different wind tunnel tests has the Hayabusa with better frontal area
and drag than the Kawasaki ZX12R, believe me, I am more than a little bummed
about that

Joe

Rick wrote:

> Joe
> my Hayabusa has 220+ hp and it ran a couple mph faster than you so you have
> to be in that range.
> I don't know if your areo's are better or worse than mine but if your making
> 240 hp prob. worse
>
> Rick
>
> PS I just put a Nitrous system on a stock Hayabusa and got 260 hp to the
> rear wheel.
> want to see a dyno sheet ??
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> To: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> Cc: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>; "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Glen
> Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>; "Land Speed List"
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: LSR Speedometer
>
> > Ask Byron what a bone stock zx11 motor makes, 126-135 at the rear wheel,
> mine has a slightly
> > better head, better compression, 40mm Lectrons (+16hp on Fast by Gast dyno
> with these carbs
> > alone), a good large tube header system, and 4 number 28 nitrous jets, you
> do the math
> >
> > admittedly I dont have nitrous dyno run, only dyno I had access to is an
> inertia type, not well
> > suited for nitrous pulls
> >
> > and I have seen as low as upper 90's to low 100hp normally aspirated, with
> different cams,
> > carbs, compression etc
> >
> > every punk kid around the world with their zx bike makes 140 hp + at the
> rear wheel (not the
> > crank) with just a pipe, and you and I know that 4 nozzles with #28
> nitrous jets makes more
> > than 100hp
> >
> > I dont have the dyno experience or money, but I do have a timing slip that
> show 195 2-1/4
> > speed, and 198.7mph average in the first mile, which points (to me anyway)
> to 200mph terminal
> > speed on a box of used bearings, rings, pistons,  rods, crank, built on  a
> 12 foot by 6 foot
> > slab of broken concrete
> >
> > I know alot of things can break, our point being, see how fast you can go
> before something does
> > break, had I bought all the parts everyone said I should have from the
> beginning I would still
> > be saving to make it to the salt, instead I have had a blast every year
> since 91,           I
> > know not going fast yet, but it has still been educational and fun
> >
> > Joe (not going fast on a snowy day, with little investment) Amo
> >
> > Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> >
> > > These are land speed records right??? Or are we going fairly
> > > fast on a suuny day with a modest investment...
> > > But i see you stepped up to the rods good move.. the block
> > > is next part to break though...
> > > At least that is what Byron Hines told me, I suspect he has
> > > more than just a clue too..
> > >
> > > I would like to see the dyno sheet though for the 240 hp
> > > pull though..not what the engine ought to make plus the
> > > advertised rating of the nitrous kit.......
> > > Dahlgren
> > >
> > > Joe Amo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alright Dahlgren,  did you see the "+" sign after the 3.3?????
> Geeeez,  I was around 4.1
> > > > with my 60 ci motor ,  I will bang hats with you with hp per ci per
> dollar spent (that
> > > > includes, tools, shop, dyno time, etc), let the games
> begin...................
> > > >
> > > > Joe (who does admit that going fast with garage parts is fun until you
> cant go any
> > > > faster) Amo
> > > >
> > > > Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > can I get in the 4.7 club?? just ran a Nissan yesterday made
> > > > > 875 on 3 liters 26 lbs boost 8300 rpm...or the 9.4 club with
> > > > > one of the turbo rotaries...750 at 10500 79.3 inches..going
> > > > > to bang on that one a little harder this winter. Switching
> > > > > over to alky and more boost ought to make it into the 12.5
> > > > > club.. 1000 hp for that one I think a hrd hat and balistic
> > > > > clothing is the order of the day. your clubs are just the
> > > > > begining of the baby steps.....
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe Amo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im with you Keith, you got Rodeck, and I have Carrillo,  lets
> squeeeeeeeeze, to our
> > > > > > hearts content,   Keith lets start our own club,  the 3.3hp+/ci
> club,  what color
> > > > > > hats (im going to regret that one), even Timney, Beckett, and Ed
> may not get in for
> > > > > > awhile
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe (when I say squeeze, Im not talking Teddy)  Amo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed Van Scoy wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > No Keith, what WAS lost in the translation was the dripping
> sarchasm regarding
> > > > > > > the 999 mph limit on the Rodeck. I have been around you long
> enough to know that
> > > > > > > when you squeeze that thing with a 350 HP hit of N2O, I better
> duck 'cause parts
> > > > > > > are gonna fly by my head at speeds in excess of 999!
> > > > > > > Ed    (why yes, that WAS a particlarly nasty comment, and who
> says I was lost &
> > > > > > > WANT to come back from lunch on time............)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glen what was obviously lost in the translation here was Ed's
> inability to
> > > > > > > > maintain his basic orientation.... We can't say lost.... Cuz
> all us MALES
> > > > > > > > know we DON'T get lost...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but even I can find my way to and from lunch....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > To: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>
> > > > > > > > Cc: "Land Speed List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 11:04 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: LSR Speedometer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > Sounds like a good lunch to me.
> > > > > > > > > Glen, who ain't giving up my clocks for any GPS thingie.
> Keith don't have
> > > > > > > > > room for one anyway'
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Glen
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ed Van Scoy wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > FWIW, I came across a GPS digital speedometer that would
> work in LSR
> > > > > > > > > > applications. I doubt if it will put Barrett out of work
> (He'll NEVER
> > > > > > > > > > give up that seat!), but it might be
> useful.........Assuming you have
> > > > > > > > > > time to look around while at speed, you may have to look
> hard as it is
> > > > > > > > > > only 2 5/8 in. in diameter. Also it only goes up to 999
> mph which may
> > > > > > > > > > render it obsolete if Keith ever gets the Rodeck together.
> The link is
> > > > > > > > > > http://intellitronix.com/index.html  and then click on
> Marine products.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ed ( In the sunny desert at 77 deg., where I  left for
> lunch today on my
> > > > > > > > > > Harley and came back with another 150 miles on the
> > > > > > > > > > odometer.............)

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