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Re: Water tank question

To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>, Jim Dincau <jdincau@qnet.com>,
Subject: Re: Water tank question
From: glen barrett <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:06:56 -0500 (EST)
Some of the west coast guys are using bolt on tractor weights, They are
available in different weights and are drilled for mounting. Leggitt has
used them for years. Just a thought.
Glen
------Original Message------
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: Jim Dincau <jdincau@qnet.com>, George Mitchell
<americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net>, FastmetalBDF@aol.com,
land-speed@autox.team.net
Sent: December 18, 2000 7:26:14 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Water tank question


Okay Jim   How bout Two 3/4" all thread with plates top and bottom.... and
30lb sheets of lead with Two holes that go down over the all thread and then
get Plated on top.   The Nuts get Impacted down so the lead conforms to the
Floor...

I took three weights that were originally in Metal boxes apart to do this...
the metal box was just to heavy to deal with!!!

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>
To: "George Mitchell" <americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net>;
<FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <kturk@ala.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Water tank question


> George,
>      Regarding the ballast question. We too built several odd shaped metal
> boxes and filled them with lead. This has proved to be a pain in the back
as
> far as taking the weights out.  One of them is so big and heavy it takes
> four people to get it in or out without a chain hoist. It is a miracle we
> haven't squashed any fingers. A better setup would be two one inch tubes
> welded to the chassis that stick up through the proposed weight. Cast the
> weights in one inch thick plates that slip down over the tubes. Top with a
> steel plate and bolts through the tube. Much easier on your body when
doing
> that between seasons teardown to remove all the Wendover locktite from the
> chassis.
> Jim
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Mitchell <americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net>
> To: <FastmetalBDF@aol.com>; <kturk@ala.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Water tank question
>
>
> > Thanks for the responses everyone .
> > The deeper I get into this project the more I appreciate what everyone
is
> > doing out there . In drag racing the formulaes seem to be pretty
> > simple ---more horsepower ,less weight etc.
> > Its not like I can go ask someone now " So when you ran your Porsche
with
> a
> > desoto hemi in it what did you do ?" This is really taking some head
> > scratching . I love it !!  I do appreciate the input from the list
though
> .
> > It helps me keep all of the ideas running around in my head from driving
> me
> > nuts.
> >
> > I moved the driving position back in the car pretty far ( compared to
> stock)
> > and I was going to use lead to ofset my own weight ( 280 #) In addition
> > there is quite a lot of space between the motor location and the
> spindles --
> > plenty of room there to add a weight box of some kind. I think I may
weld
> up
> > additional tanks to weight it more as necessary. The desoto motor weighs
a
> > tonne  too !
> >  Sometimes its still tough for me to think exactly the opposite on the
> > weight thing.
> >  George in a very cold and windy DC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> > FastmetalBDF@aol.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 10:54 PM
> > To: americanpartnerinrussia@starpower.net; kturk@ala.net;
> > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Water tank question
> >
> >
> >      George,  Since some-one said one picture is worth a thousand words,
I
> > should have mentioned the photos in the Black Radon Eng. website . There
> > are well over 100 pics, and about 60 of them are of the construction
phase
> .
> >        You can click on image 44 and see the left side water ballast
tank
> > ( with the red locking filler cap ) behind the driver' s seat ..... it'
s
> > seen from
> > the front in image 19, which also shows the aluminum trans cooling case
> > in front passenger area . Images 17, 43, and the very last one also show
> > the ice cooler case that holds the coiled aluminum tubing for heat
> transfer
> > .
> >        In the Speedweek 2000 group of photos, the first two rows on top
> > include a nice shot of the Amo Bros. on the starting line .......  AND
> > .......
> > our very own Keith mugging it up with Darrell at the bet payoff !
Please
> > note that although Darrell won the Diet Coke Bet ..... Keith is drinking
> it
> > !!!
> >       There is also a " moving " slide show of salt pics on this site
> > .......
> > but it moves kind of fast to really focus on the cars / people !
> >       You can check it out at :
> >                       http://my.cybersoup.com/blackradon/
> >
> >       Bruce,  on very rainy, windy shoreline of Connecticut  ........
> >              missing the warm days in California / Utah this past August

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