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Re: going fast

To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>, <ardunbill@webtv.net>,
Subject: Re: going fast
From: "glen barrett" <speedtimer@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:06:12 -0800
John
It was a engineering night mare built on the floor in his shop,but it
worked. I wish I had taken pictures of the whole restoration but just
couldn't go to Jim's everyday or week as I should have. I think Jim has
pictures.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
To: "glen barrett" <speedtimer@charter.net>; <ardunbill@webtv.net>;
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: going fast


> Wow, that must have been an interesting spool for the two ring gears on
each
> axle.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "glen barrett" <speedtimer@charter.net>
> To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; <ardunbill@webtv.net>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: going fast
>
>
> > Regarding Thompson's 4 engine 4 wheel drive liner. The two front engines
> > drove the the front through two quick change rear ends. The two QC'S had
a
> > axle between them as did the back axle. So each wheel was not driven
> > seperately. There was also an overdrive at the end of each axle to
control
> > overdriving the tires IE spin. I was at Mickey's shop many times when
the
> > car was being built and later on at Jim Travis shop when it was
restored.
> > He broke a drive shaft on a return record attempt and had to shut down
the
> > engines.Thompson used a mixture of oil and white lead in all of the
gears
> > cases to prevent galling. When the car was torn down we looked inside
the
> > gear case's and everything was like new.
> > Glen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > To: <ardunbill@webtv.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: going fast
> >
> >
> > > Your thoughts are sort of why I asked the question in the first place.
> > >
> > > As for Mickey's car. I looked at it just a few months ago. It had Four
> > > engines, clutches, transmissions and Four differentials. Don't know
for
> > > sure, but it looked like each engine drove it's own wheel. And it may
> have
> > > been a handful.
> > >
> > > John
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <ardunbill@webtv.net>
> > > To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>;
> > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: going fast
> > >
> > >
> > > > John, "what if" due to weight transfer or whatever, and the front
and
> > > > rear axles are not connected, the front wheels spin more than the
> rear?
> > > > Would this not destabilize the car, and interfere with steering
> control,
> > > > more than if the two axles are connected, and all four wheels have
to
> > > > spin at the same rate, if there is wheelspin.  I'm visualizing a
> > > > streamliner with two big horsepower engines here, where wheelspin
> would
> > > > be a distinct likelihood, whether at Maxton or Bonneville.
> > > >
> > > > Connecting the cranks ala Burklands might be preferable to using
some
> > > > kind of transfer case.  Might be hard to get a transfer case that
> could
> > > > handle big power, and if it did it would probably aborb a lot of
> power.
> > > >
> > > > I seem to recall from Mickey Thompson's story that Challenger had
the
> > > > front two engines driving the front wheels together, and the back
two
> > > > driving the rear wheels together.  He noted that he sat in the
cockpit
> > > > with two tachs, one for the front pair and the other for the rear,
> > > > noting the differences in rpm, and pondering whether it was the
> clutches
> > > > slipping (they had some trouble with that) or the wheels spinning
more
> > > > at one end than the other.
> > > >
> > > > An interesting exercise of Physics.  My two cents worth.  Cheers
from
> > > > Ardun Bill in the Great Dismal Swamp, Chesapeake, VA

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