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Re: FIA & FIM

To: "Malcolm Pittwood" <MPittwood@compuserve.com>,
Subject: Re: FIA & FIM
From: "glen barrett" <speedtimer@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:23:54 -0800
Malcolm
Good to hear from you and your input. The FIA Stewards were from SCCA-PRO
RACING.
They spent only a small amount of time in the timing trailer, the rest of
their time was with the vehicles. I have no idea what they observed. There
was no FIM at the event.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Malcolm Pittwood" <MPittwood@compuserve.com>
To: "LSR List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: FIA & FIM


> I do not know what the arrangements at the World Finals were for FIA
> sanctioning but the speed of getting FIA approval depends upon the person
> filing the records information (the claim form with all signatures on it)
> and what his organisation does to speed things through the committees that
> sit to discuss 'approving' the claim. The timing of these committees
> populated by delegates from amany countries is any ones guess but they
will
> not be frequent.   From which motorsport group in the USA did the FIA
> observers come to the evnt this year, Glen?
>
> Because of the way we have made record attempts in the UK I have worked
> with British people who are recognised Internationally (FIA or FIM) but
are
> also recognised by the Motor Sports Association (cars) and Auto Cycle
Union
> (bikes) our National governing bodies  The people I work with know speed
> record breaking - many have held records in the bike classes.
>
> I am not surprised that nothing has happened in two months - it has in the
> past taken 7 (yes seven) months to get a UK National car record ratified
> and certificates presented (well sent in the post actually).  Now we have
> some streamlined procedures and a small group to ratify the paperwork.
>
> By the way the FIA and FIM are two different organisations and they would
> use different Stewards etc..
> The rules the FIA and FIM set down are not just about the accuracy of
> timing or measuring the course etc..........I am repeating myself here by
> saying, they also dictate how much work can be done on car or bike between
> the two passes and what parts can be changed.  With a bike it is not a lot
> of servicing work.
>
> Jon and Joe and other bike racers may need someone to have a meeting which
> is set up for FIM sanction and apart from the record ratifying costs being
> down to the individual, the stewards costs would be shared by many, making
> the event tolerable in expense terms.  (There again you may be happy with
> your SCTA record set to their World Finals/BNI rules being faster than the
> FIM record, which I do not mind, but we are back to differing views on
what
> is a 'World' STANDARD).  Just out of curiosity what was done to the bike
> between runs Joe in those 2 hours 20 minutes?
>
> In Britain we do not yet have an organisation that runs Land Speed Racing
> events - although such groups have existed in the past and run events to
> the UK and International standards - two passes in opposite directions in
1
> hour.  Having spent time with John Beckett. Keith Turk and other ECTA
> racers this situation may be changed in the future......we are working on
> common standards and procedures.
>
> Malcolm Pittwood, Derby, England
>
> ps - good to see that the subject of FIA and FIM still raises passion on
> all sides.....

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