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Number of classes - motorcycle - round 2

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Subject: Number of classes - motorcycle - round 2
From: "Waldron, James" <James.Waldron@CWUSA.COM>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:21:16 -0400
With data gleaned from this list over the last few posts - 
I'll take an initial stab at the number of Motorcycle Classes.

(Based on data from www.scta-bni.org/mcycle_classes.htm)
(Adjustments from the new 2002 rule book applied at bottom)

13 Displacement Classes under 2000cc
 1 Displacement Class at 2001-3000cc (or is it 2000+ to 3000cc ?)
 1 Displacement Class at 3001+cc

8 basic Frame Classes  (P, M, A, MPS, APS, SC, SCS, and S)

18 Engine Classes (P, PP, PS, G, PG, VG, UG, BG, PBG, VBG F, PF, 
VF, UF BF, PBF, VBF and Omega) but P, PP, and PS are for Frame 
Class P only, and then there's Omega, so 3 Production Engine Classes
14 other Engine Classes, and Omega (Steam, Turbine or Electric)


(You may want to skip to the bottom here.)


Starting with Production.
Production Frame (P) allows only P, PP, and PS Engine classes to 
2000cc or 13 Displacement Classes 3 x 13 = 39   (assumes a 
production bike actually exists in each displacement and engine class)

Next Modified.
Modified Frame (M) allows 14 Engine Classes and 13 Displacement 
Classes (up to 2000cc) 
14 x 13 = 182 (We'll assume you can find a Vintage Blown 
Gasoline bike to modify, etc.)

Special Construction
Class A is Modified Frame Bikes with extra long wheelbases, and 
you get the two additional Displacement Classes, 3000 and 3001+
14 x 15 = 210

Modified Partial Streamlining
MPS is like class M.  14 Engine Classes and 13 Displacement Classes
14 x 13 = 182

Special Construction Partial Streamlining (APS), Sidecar (SC), 
Sidecar Streamliner(SCS), and Streamliner (S), 4 Frame Classes, 
all are allowed 14 Engine Classes and 15 Displacement Classes
4 x 14 x 15 = 840

Subtotal = 1453

(Easy part over - you probably 'really' want to skip to the 
bottom here - but this next bit was fun)

Rules say: "Motorcycle classes are listed in order of 
displacement, frame type, and engine type."

Now we come to good old Omega Engine Classes.
Piston Steam will have a displacement.
Gas Turbine and Steam Turbine may have a displacement equivalency 
formula.  I don't know how you would determine Electric 
displacement, but electric cycles may run based on weight, 
like the cars?  I did not find anything in my old rule book (I'm 
not saying it's not there, I just didn't find it).

Going through the Frame Classes.
We've all seen those little electric scooters, so there 'could' 
be at least one P-Omega Class [Electric]. (Do any of these 
meet the 'standard road motorcycle' requirement?) If the above 
exists, I suppose someone will want to Modify it (Frame Class M), 
and extend the wheelbase (Frame Class A), but to make a long 
story short the 7 Frame Classes besides P might be possible.
8 Possible classes assuming all Electrics run in Omega regardless 
of weight.

Since I don't know of any Production Steam or Turbine Motorcycles
(that meet the 500 minimum production quantity rule), I'll 
eliminate this part of P-Omega.  (But hey, wasn't there a 
rotary engine motorcycle??)  I know of no 'other thermodynamic
cycle' motorcycles.

However, one could fit a Steam Engine or Turbine to any of the 
7 other Frame Classes so,
7 possible classes - but already included as XXX-Omega 
above ASSUMING that Piston Steam engines don't have displacement 
divisions.  Otherwise, 
add 105 Displacement-Frame-Omega classes for various displacement 
Piston Steam engines in various Frame Classes. (But no clue 
on how you would have some Omega's with displacement and others 
without.)

So, vaguely possible additional 113 classes, more likely 
7 or 8 additional Frame-Omega classes.


Sub Totals (still to be adjusted for 2002 rules)

1453 + 7 =   1,460  (most likely)
1453 + 8 =   1,461  (somewhat likely)
1453 + 113 = 1,566  (somewhat unlikely)




A new (to me) Engine Class, PV, Production Vintage. Can only 
run in Frame Class P, up to 2000cc, so 13 Engine Classes
+ 13 new Classes!

Engine Class Omega removed from Frame Classes M, MPS, A, and APS
- 4 Classes

Frame Class Side Car, SC, no engines from P, PS, PP, PV, or Omega
- 5 Classes  (You can't run a Production Side Car anymore?)

Also, (Rule 7.J.12) Engine Classes UG and UF are only allowed 
in Streamliner. So,
- 26 for Modified Frame Class, M  (13 each UG and UF under 2000cc)
- 30 for Special Construction, A  (15 each UG and UF)
- 26 for Modified Partial Streamlining, MPS
- 30 for Special Construction Partial Streamlining, APS
- 30 for Sidecar, SC
- 30 for Sidecar Streamliner, SCS

Rule 7.J.13 seems to clarify that Omega all run in one class, under 
'applicacable frame class requirements'.  Since all Production Frames
run in 'gas class' (Rule 7.J.1) this probably kills the electric 
motorcycle idea.  Taking out the Frames where Omega is not 
allowed leaves only two places, Streamliner and Side Car Streamliner,
for all Omega power plants.  We also get to eliminate any possible 
steam displacement classes.
+ 2 Omega classes.


Recalculating,

1,287  (1453+13-4-5-26-30-26-30-30-30+2) (1453 was total minus Omega)


A listing I have shows records in 302 different motorcycle classes, 
which would make there appear to be a lot of room for entry.

Hey!  I'm new at this and would REALLY appreciate any knowledge 
gaps being filled in.  Somewhere in here is also where I am 
planning on competing.  If some combinations are not allowed, 
I would like to know.  And, of course, any information (or guesses) 
on Omega would be welcome!  (and someone should check my math)

Thanks,
Jim.

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