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To: aramm@concentric.net
Subject: Re: Dashpot Oil)
From: gofastmg@juno.com (Rick Morrison)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 20:47:45 EST
I have heard that the primary difference is in the friction additives. 
The Ford ATF has a bit more than  Dextron.
  Some of the aftermarket hot-rod tranny builders recommend Mercon to
enhance solid shifts (read harshness)
  
Rick Morrison
72 MGBGT
74 Midget

On Mon, 05 Jan 1998 13:01:09 -0800 Andy Ramm <aramm@concentric.net>
writes:
>Does anybiody know what the difference is between Dextron ATF (GM) or
>Mercron (Ford) ATFand other versions of ATF?  Sorry if this was 
>alreadt
>addressed and I missed it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andy
>
>John McEwen wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matt:
>> 
>> I use ATF for damn near everything on a car except the engine - and 
>a quart
>> of it in the oil occasionally will certainly help to keep it clean.  
>I use
>> the red stuff for the following:
>> 
>> Automatic transmissions
>> Power steering pumps
>> Carburetor dashpots
>> Lever shock absorbers
>> Hydraulic steering systems
>> Jackall systems
>> Floor jacks
>> Bottle jacks
>> Motorcycle primary cases
>> Motorcycle forks
>> 
>> It is a superior light oil - 20 wt. - with a high level of detergent 
>but is
>> also not too slippery.  It is conveniently dyed to assist in finding 
>leaks
>> and is inexpensive and readily available.  I don't need to purchase 
>a great
>> number of different, very expensive "specialty" oils which all do 
>the same
>> job - but not as well in many cases.  It would also probably make 
>decent
>> brake fluid in a warm climate except that it would be a bit too slow 
>to
>> release pressure. It might also serve as a good oil in an OD 
>transmission
>> if driven in a winter climate.
>> 
>> I heartily recommend it to all.
>> 
>> On another matter, I fully endorse the use of silicone brake fluid.  
>This
>> is particularly important in vehicles which are in storage for a
>> considerable time - as in winter storage on a yearly basis.  There 
>is the
>> possibility that some LBCs will require the replacement of rubber 
>brake
>> parts with newer ones, however if they do swell in the presence of 
>silicone
>> fluid they probably should have been replaced long before this.  It 
>doesn't
>> take too many wheel cylinder/master cylinder/clutch cylinder 
>replacements
>> before the logic of this takes hold - not to mention the cost of 
>repairing
>> damaged paint when something lets go in the engine compartment.
>> 
>> BTW, I'm still trying to get brake fluid out of the carpets of my MG 
>after
>> the last master cylinder failure.
>> 
>> John McEwen
>> 
>> >Having bought my 'B with a leaking front shock, I was going to fill 
>it
>> >back up and see if it was a fast leak or a slow PO.  As much as I 
>dug
>> >through my Haynes, I couldn't find what sort of oil to top up the 
>shocks
>> >with.  Do the veterans agree with using ATF?
>> >
>> >Matt Kulka
>> >'74 B - only mildly shocking at this point.
>> >
>> >>>> "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au> 01/05/98 02:58am >>>
>> >
>> >ATF and power steering fluid are the same thing - I use ATF.
>> >In fact ATF is also perfect to use in lever arm shocks.
>> >ATF, PSF, and shock oil have the magic anti-foaming additives and 
>are
>> >almost exactly the same weight.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Stuart Hellis <health4u@connect.ab.ca>
>> >>Am I the only person using Power Steering Pump Fluid?  I was 
>taught
>> >that it
>> >>was the best all-round oil for the dash pots, especially in 
>extremes of
>> >>temperatures...
>
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>
>
>
>
>Andy Ramm
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