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Re: For those in England: NonLBC way of life question. VeryImportant

To: "James H. Nazarian" <microdoc@apk.net>
Subject: Re: For those in England: NonLBC way of life question. VeryImportant
From: Matt Pringle <pringlmm@mcmaster.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:58:04 -0400
Shame on you.  Mike asks for advice and support from a group of people
he would consider friends and you have the nerve to suggest:

1) It is easy for woman to come forward with charges of abuse

2) She is just as much at fault for being in the stairwell as he is for
pushing himself on her.

3) That this man's girlfriend was pursuing this relationship as more
than a friendship.

4) That she gave suggestive signals.

This is the 1990's my friend, we as a society don't subscribe to these
falicies any more.  I suggest you talk to your
sister/daughter/grand-daughter and ask her to enlighten you.

Shame on you.

Matt

James H. Nazarian wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Sorry to eavesdrop on your e-mail... I failed to look at the subject
> before
> reading it. You (and your girlfriend) have a responsibility to hold your
> tongue(s). You don't know what happened, because you weren't there. If
> you
> choose to believe the girlfriend, that is your choice. In this country,
> a mere
> accusation of this kind can become a character assassination and
> terribly
> expensive for his defense even if he is found innocent. Then I hope he
> would sue
> his false accuser for irreparable harm to his good name and reputation.
> 
> "Filing" a complaint as a precaution against it happening again ignores
> the fact
> that this is what motivates the legal/police business to prosecute and
> convict
> innocent people... money. If you really want to document it, have her
> write a
> statement, seal it in an envelope, and have the postal service put a
> date stamp
> over the seam of the flap. Then store it safely away. You can even send
> him a
> copy.
> 
> Since you have known and trusted him, maybe you should call him on the
> phone and
> have a friendly chat about it before you jump the gun and make a false
> accusation. This will also serve him notice that you know what she said.
> If you
> were ready to go there to "kill the SOB", surely you can muster the
> eloquence to
> advise him to stay away from her, including to not confront her about
> telling
> you. This would be for his own good too. Always bear in mind that it is
> easy for
> a woman to make such an accusation, including as a cover-up to something
> she
> did. It is very difficult to stop the ball once it gets rolling.
> 
> In common sense 101, she should have learned to avoid situations like
> being
> alone in a stairwell with a stranger. Just as he has a responsibility to
> leave
> her alone, she has a responsibility to avoid giving suggestive signals.
> You too
> should hope that he isn't murdered during your next visit to London,
> 'cause you
> just told 500 people you are pondering killing someone. Yikes! I
> wouldn't want
> to be in your shoes.
> 
> Don't play with dynamite if you don't like loud noises.
> 
> Jim
> 
> PS: I fail to see the connection here with MG's, other than one man
> asking for
> advice from some others. Good luck my friend.
> 
> Michael Graziano wrote:
> 
> > Hey folks.
> >
> > I have a little news that's bothering me to no end.  In fact,  I'm quite
> > upset.
> >
> > My girlfriend is currently going to school in London.  I'm stuck here in the
> > states.
> >
> > She called me more than a little upset Saturday night (3:30 am your time)
> > that one of her friends, someone I actually know and whom we both trusted,
> > trapped her in the stairwell of her apartment house and forced himself on
> > her.  Mainly just kissing, but a little more as well.  She escaped by first
> > kneeing him at the first opportunity, and then running into her apartment.
> > THe advances were unwanted and unprovoked.  He was a little drunk.
> >
> > After my initial reaction (which was to start making plans to fly to
> > London),  I realized that no good could come of it.  Being arrested in a a
> > foreign land is not what I had in mind for this week.  My next thought was
> > for her to report him to the police and file a complaint.  Maybe not file
> > charges, but at least have it on record in case he tries something else.
> > Letting him know a report was filed might be a future deterent.  Wini, my
> > GF, doesn't think that will do any good.  She is of the opinion that things
> > of this nature are taken lightly by the police constables.
> >
> > What is your the general opinion on this matter.  What steps can we take
> > short of my killing the son-of-a-bitch?  I promised her I would do nothing
> > until i spoke with her,  but doing nothing is eating me up inside.
> >
> > Mike

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