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Re: hot stuff

To: Art Pfenninger <ch155@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: hot stuff
From: Tab Julius <tab@penworks.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:03:36 -0500
You can't smell carbon monoxide.  If you find some headaches coming on, you
might want to vent it.  You *should* vent it anyway, or open a window at
the minimum. 


At 01:46 PM 11/23/99 -0500, Art Pfenninger wrote:
>
>Each to his own but I also use one of these propane heaters and it is the
>bet $39 I ever spent. I have even used it in the drive way while working
>outside. If they give out noxious fumes I have never smelled them. As far
>as my garage being air tight ...I only wish it were. No I wouldn't use it
>inside my house but the garage is anoyther story. 40 hours of heat for $8
>dollars can't be beat. Plus no expensive ionvestment up front.
>...Art
>
>On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Don Wilkins wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:16:17 -0500, you wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >I have used one of those "infra-red" propane heaters for more than 5 years
>> >now
>> >and they are great. It is basically a unit that fits on top of a standard
>> >propane
>> >tank, which heats up a metal gauze (4"x4") and than the heat is radiated
>> >out.
>> >My unit is made by Coleman and outputs a max of 28K btu. 
>> >
>> >It does not heat the garage as such, but does a good job of taking the
chill
>> >
>> >out of the air and making the garage more comfortable. 
>> 
>> In addition it does an excellent job of converting all of those foul
>> smelling sulfur compounds that are present in propane to sulfuric
>> acid. 
>> >
>> >Strictly speaking, it in not intended for indoor use, as it uses inside
air
>> >for
>> >combustion, but I only leave it on for 10 minutes at a time and never
leave
>> >it
>> >on while I am out of the garage. 
>> 
>> There is no way in hell I would put one of these non-vented combustion
>> heaters in any confined occupied space. The sulfuric acid produced is
>> not something I want in my work area.
>> >
>> >What I like about this unit is that it is completely portable so I can
move
>> >it around
>> >the garage to where ever I am working. Also by placing a standard fan
behind
>> >it, it blows hot air where you direct it.
>> >
>> >I would not recommend this for a 1 car garage, as you should not have
>> >anything
>> >more than 6 feet in front of it. But my garage is large enough that I have
>> >it well
>> >away from anything.
>> >
>> >Obviously when I am working with volatile materials, the heater stay off.
>> 
>> In fact you probably would be better leaving this monstrosity on as
>> some of those volatile materials that you are concerned about would be
>> harmlessly  consumed by the heater long before they reached a
>> combustible concentration and before you breathed them.
>> 
>> There is nothing like a well ventilated shop to take care of the
>> volatile combustibles. Sulfuric acid although not combustible is not
>> my idea of a desirable chemical to have looking for a place to sit
>> down in my shop.
>> 
>> As you might guess I am not in favor of using these non-vented gas
>> heaters either in a shop or residence.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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