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RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's

To: "'Barrie Robinson'" <barrier@bconnex.net>,
Subject: RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
From: "Jerry Erbesfield" <jerbesfield@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:50:22 -0400
Believe it or not, I used to sell Bentleys, and Rolls Royce at an Oldsmobile
dealership that had both franchises back then. That was well over 30 years
ago, from 1968 to 1971, 26 to 29 years of age. However, because of that I
have an interest in them and have followed them some since then, so YES, I
am somewhat familiar with how expensive they are. I know that I could
purchase 3-4 nicely equipped Vette roadsters or Z06's for the cost of one
(low end) Bentley.

Because of that, I assumed that you were giving Vettes a big compliment in
your original post. Right? Please excuse me if I'm wrong. I'm a little slow
sometimes. 

Thanks for the e-mail!

Jerry

Jerry Erbesfield
Was - 73 Black beauty MGB roadster
Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Barrie Robinson
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:18 PM
To: Jerry Erbesfield; MG List
Subject: RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's


Jerry,

Seen the prices of Bentleys lately?


At 11:53 PM 7/23/2003 -0400, Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
>The Corvette's LS-1 engine was developed at the expense of and first 
>used in light GM trucks. But that's as close at it gets! The C-5 model 
>Vette ain't no truck! And you know what else? The 60's era Vettes bring 
>30,000 to $150,000 when sold. That don't sound too much like truckin 
>either!
>
>Love my Vette but miss my B.
>
>Jerry
>
>Jerry Erbesfield
>Was - 73 Black beauty MGB roadster
>Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
>E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
>Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barrie Robinson [mailto:barrier@bconnex.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:07 AM
>To: Don Malling; Jerry Erbesfield; mgs@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
>
>
>Bugatti once remarked that Bentleys were the fastest trucks available.  
>Having driven a couple of Corvettes, including Bill Brack's 1985 model 
>- "refined" by GM themselves, I am not sure that Bentley still retains 
>the title.
>
>
>At 10:14 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, Don Malling wrote:
> >I bought two MGB parts cars from a guy who owns a Corvette 
> >restoration shop. His wife drives a 73 B.
> >
> >FWIW, he commented at least three times that he had more fun driving 
> >his wife's B to the Watkins Glenn vintage races than he ever has in 
> >any of his Corvettes.
> >
> >Maybe there's more than one way for a B to kill a Corvette :-)
> >
> >Don Malling
> >
> >
> >
> >Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
> >>Hi Albert:
> >>You got just a little carried away here, didn't you? "Corvette 
> >>Killing" - NOT! I owned a B roadster myself for over 15 years until 
> >>just recently. Completely rebuilt is twice myself. I am intimately 
> >>familiar with them, the culture and their performance capabilities, 
> >>including superchargers. Didn't buy a supercharger for MY B though. 
> >>Bought a C-5 (the currently produced
> >>version) Corvette roadster instead - and let me tell you from 
> >>personal experience that there is no way a B with even TRIPLE the 
> >>stock MG HP would be a "Corvette Killer". I loved my Black Beauty B. 
> >>It was a GREAT car, FOR WHAT IT WAS. But a Corvette killer MG's are 
> >>not (and cannot be without a engine/drive train transplant and 
> >>more), supercharger or not. Additionally, the stock drive train 
> >>would never hold up under the power and torque of triple the HP, if 
> >>you could figure a way to produce that much HP from any MG power 
> >>plant. It is questionable how long an MG drive train will hold up 
> >>with the 175-200 HP that a well done supercharger job would produce, 
> >>especially if the driver used all that HP much. If the driver is out 
> >>dragging Vettes much, it sure wouldn't last very long. As far as 
> >>Vipers go (500 HP stock), they can out drag a stock Vette (345 to 
> >>405 HP stock, depending on model) - and, while I can tattoo most 
> >>production Porsche models that are out on the streets, there are 
> >>some limited production models of it that will out drag my Vette 
> >>from 0 to 60. A supercharged B IS awesome, especially to an MG 
> >>aficionado - but not quite THAT awesome. Know any supercharged (MG 
> >>engine) B's that might want to drag, pink slip for pink slip??? I 
> >>miss my B and I'd love to get back into the MG business again!!
> >>;<)
> >>Jerry Erbesfield
> >>Was - 73 Black Beauty B roadster
> >>Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
> >>E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
> >>Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On 
> >>Behalf Of Aeseeyou@aol.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:58 PM
> >>To: doddk@mossmotors.com
> >>Cc: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
> >>
> >>Kelvin,
> >>Thanks for all your help and participation on July 20th at our 13th 
> >>Annual British Car Show at the Ventura Yacht Harbor. The Moss Motors
>display of
> >>those two Supercharged MGB's was awesome! Who'd think that the 
> >>serene lil' MGB that pulls in next to you at the stop light was a 
> >>Corvette Killing, Porshe eating, Viper beating beast capable of 
> >>smoking them in all 4 gears. Plus I was
> >>totally blown away when you told me that build time to attach the Eaton
> >>Blower unit and all of the ancilary hardware and plumbing was well under
> >>5 hours. End result: Some of the nicest and cleanest work I've ever
seen!
> >>It really
> >>looked as if it was part of the original factory or stock set-up, it was
> >>that nicely put together! I'm sure that it'd probably pass even a
Highway
> >>check by a
> >>"Smoky"! I was going to ask you to kick one of the two engines over to
> >>hear what they sounded like when your Lady, Debbie drove up in the
chrome
> >>bumper example of
> >>your MGB RB Killer B That answered my question far better than any
> >>explanation.."Its Undetectible" as far as I could tell and I was really
> >>listening for that tell-tale hissing and whistleing that usually gives
> >>away most turbo or supercharged cars. All in all that would be the best
> >>spent money anyone
> >>could as for. Especially nice for the "DIY" crowd with all the parts
> >>looking pleasently
> >>and professionally well done. I'd like to do a feature in the "Hooter"
on
>the
> >>two Killer B's. Let me know. Fantastico! (p.s. Now I know what to 
> >>ask Santa to bring me for Christmas!) Albert Escalante, Editor
> >>"THE CLEAR HOOTER"
> >>Owner of a naturally aspirated 1978 MGB
>
>Regards
>Barrie
>
>Barrie Robinson
>barrier@bconnex.net

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
barrier@bconnex.net 

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