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To: Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd <enquiries@classic-car-world.co.uk>, MG Group <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running
From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:11:11 +0000 (UTC)
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Tom, I did replace the filter element last year (OEM style)... The old one =
actually had been attacked by something as it was a bit torn up....!=20

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/A0E15D80-7C50-4411-830C-B0F8=
4D14D367_zpskalzqxpz.jpg
Thx, Dan


      From: Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
 To: MG Group <mgs@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running
  =20
Dan, try removing your air filters and see what happens. I had an issue on =
an old mini a few months which would not run right at all. It had a high fl=
ow K&N air filter on it which was basically blocked. The engine was effecti=
vely running too rich due to the lack of air.=C2=A0The owner of the mini th=
en confessed that he had never cleaned the filter in the time he had the ca=
r. Some 15 years perhaps.=C2=A0When you removed the vacuum pipe and the eng=
ine ran better you would have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at =
the manifold.=C2=A0Regards=C2=A0TomAH 3000 BJ8MG MGA 1600 MKIMini Park Lane=
=C2=A0Ok, tried removing the brake booster vacuum hose with no change.....=
=C2=A0I removed it at the manifold end as it was a lot easier to get to - p=
lugged the port there. Car ran the same when started, however revs increase=
d noticeably when I removed theplug while the car was running. Still ran ro=
ughly but not quite as badly and with increased vigor, it seemed to me. And=
 the hose was completely dry as far up as I could reach witha swab. I then =
hooked it up, ran the car again, and then checked inside the hose again - s=
till dry.....=C2=A0I'll worry about the brake fluid loss once I get the car=
 up and running again.... Didn't seem like the reservoir was any lower toda=
y after running the car a bit yesterday....=C2=A0Any thoughts on what to ch=
eck next?=C2=A0Thx, Dan=C2=A0From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20
Cc: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running=C2=A0Yes.=C2=A0 It would only be =
wet if it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty seal in the servo.=C2=A0Paul=
H.=C2=A0----- Original Message ----- Ok, thanks, guys, will check this toni=
ght. I assume that this is simply providing vacuum to the booster and shoul=
d be dry normally...?=C2=A0
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57495=
">Tom, I did replace the filter element last year (OEM style)... The old on=
e actually had been attacked by something as it was a bit torn up....! <br>=
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=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57540" dir=3D=
"ltr">Thx, Dan<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_56805"><=
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"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span><=
/b> Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd via Mgs &lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;<br=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> MG Group &lt;mgs@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>=
 Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:48 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bo=
ld;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running<br> </font> </div=
> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57579" class=3D"y_msg_containe=
r"><br><div id=3D"yiv3955902582"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105=
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3246655105_57573" face=3D"Helvetica"><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14732466=
55105_57572" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Dan, try removing your air filters=
=20
and see what happens. I had an issue on an old mini a few months which woul=
d not=20
run right at all. It had a high flow K&amp;N air filter on it which was=20
basically blocked. The engine was effectively running too rich due to the l=
ack=20
of air.</font></font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57596" class=3D"yiv3955902582Mso=
Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
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Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57580" style=3D""><font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_147=
3246655105_57582" size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">The owner of the mini then =
confessed that he had never=20
cleaned the filter in the time he had the car. Some 15 years=20
perhaps.</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57583" class=3D"yiv3955902582Mso=
Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57585" class=3D"yiv3955902582Mso=
Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span id=3D"yui_3_16=
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3246655105_57597" size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">When you removed the vacuum=
 pipe and the engine ran better=20
you would have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at the=20
manifold.</font></span></div>
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Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">Regards</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473246655105_57588" class=3D"yiv3955902582Mso=
Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
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Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">Tom</font></span></div>
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Normal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><fo=
nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">AH 3000 BJ8</font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">MG MGA 1600 =
MKI</font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica">Mini Park La=
ne</font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582yqt8334230177" id=3D"yiv3955902582yqt48942"><div=
 class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm 0cm =
0pt;"><span style=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Helvetica"></font></span>&n=
bsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">Ok, tried removing the brake=20
booster vacuum hose with no change.....</font></font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;"></font></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">I removed it at the manifold end as=20
it was a lot easier to get to - plugged the port there. Car ran the same wh=
en=20
started, however revs increased noticeably when I removed=20
the</font></font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">plug while the car was running.=20
Still ran roughly but not quite as badly and with increased vigor, it seeme=
d to=20
me. And the hose was completely dry as far up as I could reach=20
with</font></font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">a swab. I then hooked it up, ran=20
the car again, and then checked inside the hose again - still=20
dry.....</font></font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;"></font></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">I'll worry about the brake fluid=20
loss once I get the car up and running again.... Didn't seem like the reser=
voir=20
was any lower today after running the car a bit=20
yesterday....</font></font></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;"></font></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">Any thoughts on what to check=20
next?</font></font></span></div>
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0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;"></font></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
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0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">Thx, Dan</font></font></span></div>
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0cm 0pt;"><b><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Arial"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE=
:10pt;">From:</font></font></span></b><span style=3D""><font style=3D"FONT-=
SIZE:10pt;"><font face=3D"Arial"> PaulHunt73 via Mgs &lt;</font><a href=3D"=
" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" style=3D""><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=
=3D"Arial">mgs@autox.team.net</font></a><font face=3D"Arial">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=20
</font><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" style=3D""><font color=
=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial">MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com</font></a><font face=3D"=
Arial"> <br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> MG=20
List &lt;</font><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" style=3D""><fo=
nt color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial">mgs@autox.team.net</font></a></font><fo=
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>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17=20
AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running</font=
></font></span><span style=3D""></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv3955902582MsoNormal" style=3D"BACKGROUND:white;MARGIN:0cm =
0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"></font></span>&nbsp;</d=
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0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E:10pt;">Yes.&nbsp; It would only be wet if=20
it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty seal in the=20
servo.</font></font></span><span style=3D""></span></div>
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E:10pt;">PaulH.</font></font></span><span style=3D""></span></div>
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0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Arial"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10=
pt;">----- Original Message -----=20
</font></font></span></div>
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0cm 0pt;"><span style=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica">Ok, thanks, guys, will =
check this tonight. I assume that this is=20
simply providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry=20
normally...?</font></span></div>
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