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Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?
From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 21:06:41 +0200
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Agree with you Frank,

 

I had the same with the original clutch slave hose.

Due to being old, the hose was not letting any fluid through anymore.

Also my advise to replace the slave cylinder piston rubber.

Low cost, easy to do.

Clean thoroughly and have the cylinder wall of the slave cylinder well chec=
ked for burr markings.

Make everything smooth before reassembling and your slave cylinder will wor=
k well for ages.

 

Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT NRG

 

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens FrankK via Mgs
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 mei 2019 4:51
Aan: dave
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

 

When that happened in my MGA  it was the hose to the slave cylinder that ha=
d failed.  It  is not apparent from just looking at it because the failure =
is inside the hose, same as the brake line hoses.   That was an easier fix =
than replacing the clutch.    Even replacing the slave or rebuilding it is =
far less labor intensive than pulling the motor and  gearbox to get to the =
disc and pressure plate. 

Frank Krajewski

 

From: dave via Mgs 

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 2:29 PM

To: mgs@autox.team.net 

Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

 

Picked it up today =E2=80=93 when you start it in gear, it starts moving.  =
Accelerate and it goes, and if you put in the clutch, it takes most of the =
pressure off but it still creeps.

 

Am thinking  that I=E2=80=99ll bleed the clutch slave cylinder.

 

After that I=E2=80=99m thinking I need to replace the clutch . . .

 

From: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 2:18 AM
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

 

Agree, it would be like the clutch was fully engaged.  Most likely hydrauli=
cs as said, or possibly pilot bearing or friction plate binding.

 

PaulH.

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I=E2=80=99d check hydraulics first. If it was stuck I think you=E2=80=99d b=
e doing more than creeping.

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nk=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Agree with you Frank,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US st=
yle=3D'color:#1F497D'>I had the same with the original clutch slave hose.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:=
#1F497D'>Due to being old, the hose was not letting any fluid through anymo=
re.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'c=
olor:#1F497D'>Also my advise to replace the slave cylinder piston rubber.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:=
#1F497D'>Low cost, easy to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Clean thoroughly and have the cyli=
nder wall of the slave cylinder well checked for burr markings.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>M=
ake everything smooth before reassembling and your slave cylinder will work=
 well for ages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-U=
S style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hans 71 BGT NR=
G<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'col=
or:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;bord=
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<b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:<=
/span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"=
'> Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>Namens </b>FrankK via Mgs<br>=
<b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 21 mei 2019 4:51<br><b>Aan:</b> dave<br><b>CC:</b=
> mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;co=
lor:black'>When that happened in my MGA&nbsp; it was the hose to the slave =
cylinder that had failed.&nbsp; It&nbsp; is not apparent from just looking =
at it because the failure is inside the hose, same as the brake line hoses.=
&nbsp;&nbsp; That was an easier fix than replacing the clutch.&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Even replacing the slave or rebuilding it is far less labor intensive=
 than pulling the motor and&nbsp; gearbox to get to the disc and pressure p=
late. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN=
-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Frank Krajewski<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:w=
hitesmoke'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> dave via M=
gs <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backgroun=
d:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Monday=
, May 20, 2019 2:29 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
 style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span la=
ng=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";colo=
r:black'> mgs@autox.team.net <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans=
-serif";color:black'> Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
/div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>Picked it up today =
=E2=80=93 when you start it in gear, it starts moving.&nbsp; Accelerate and=
 it goes, and if you put in the clutch, it takes most of the pressure off b=
ut it still creeps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3D=
EN-US style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>Am thinking&nbsp; that I=E2=80=
=99ll bleed the clutch slave cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>After that I=
=E2=80=99m thinking I need to replace the clutch . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0=
pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US st=
yle=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black=
'> PaulHunt73 &lt;paulhunt73@virginmedia.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, M=
ay 20, 2019 2:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> dave &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</=
b> mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'co=
lor:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=
=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Agree, it would be like the=
 clutch was fully engaged.&nbsp; Most likely hydraulics as said, or possibl=
y pilot bearing or friction plate binding.</span><span lang=3DEN-US style=
=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
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=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:black'>I=E2=80=
=99d check hydraulics first. If it was stuck I think you=E2=80=99d be doing=
 more than creeping.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div class=3DMsoNorm=
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