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Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?
From: dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 20:50:28 -0500
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Excellent advice all around!!!  Picked up a new hose today; slave =
cylinder on the way.  Figure that=E2=80=99s way easier than pulling the =
engine/tranny.

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Hope to get the hose in this week; slave will be here next week.

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From: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 2:07 PM
To: 'FrankK' <frankk12@verizon.net>; 'dave' <dave@ranteer.com>
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

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Agree with you Frank,

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I had the same with the original clutch slave hose.

Due to being old, the hose was not letting any fluid through anymore.

Also my advise to replace the slave cylinder piston rubber.

Low cost, easy to do.

Clean thoroughly and have the cylinder wall of the slave cylinder well =
checked for burr markings.

Make everything smooth before reassembling and your slave cylinder will =
work well for ages.

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Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT NRG

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Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens FrankK via Mgs
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 mei 2019 4:51
Aan: dave
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

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When that happened in my MGA  it was the hose to the slave cylinder that =
had failed.  It  is not apparent from just looking at it because the =
failure is inside the hose, same as the brake line hoses.   That was an =
easier fix than replacing the clutch.    Even replacing the slave or =
rebuilding it is far less labor intensive than pulling the motor and  =
gearbox to get to the disc and pressure plate.=20

Frank Krajewski

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From: dave via Mgs=20

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 2:29 PM


Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

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Picked it up today =E2=80=93 when you start it in gear, it starts =
moving.  Accelerate and it goes, and if you put in the clutch, it takes =
most of the pressure off but it still creeps.

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Am thinking  that I=E2=80=99ll bleed the clutch slave cylinder.

=20

After that I=E2=80=99m thinking I need to replace the clutch . . .

=20

From: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com =
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?

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Agree, it would be like the clutch was fully engaged.  Most likely =
hydraulics as said, or possibly pilot bearing or friction plate binding.

=20

PaulH.

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I=E2=80=99d check hydraulics first. If it was stuck I think =
you=E2=80=99d be doing more than creeping.

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Excellent advice all =
around!!!=C2=A0 Picked up a new hose today; slave cylinder on the =
way.=C2=A0 Figure that=E2=80=99s way easier than pulling the =
engine/tranny.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hope to get =
the hose in this week; slave will be here next week.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Hans Duinhoven =
&lt;h.duinhoven@planet.nl&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2019 =
2:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'FrankK' &lt;frankk12@verizon.net&gt;; 'dave' =
&lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Mgs] bad clutch =
or?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Agree with you Frank,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I had the same with the =
original clutch slave hose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Due to being old, the =
hose was not letting any fluid through anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Also my advise to =
replace the slave cylinder piston rubber.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Low cost, easy to =
do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Clean thoroughly and have the cylinder wall of =
the slave cylinder well checked for burr =
markings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Make everything smooth before reassembling and =
your slave cylinder will work well for ages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hans 71 BGT =
NRG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Van:</span></b=
><span lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Mgs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>Namens </b>FrankK via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 21 =
mei 2019 4:51<br><b>Aan:</b> dave<br><b>CC:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp=
:</b> Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>When that =
happened in my MGA&nbsp; it was the hose to the slave cylinder that had =
failed.&nbsp; It&nbsp; is not apparent from just looking at it because =
the failure is inside the hose, same as the brake line =
hoses.&nbsp;&nbsp; That was an easier fix than replacing the =
clutch.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Even replacing the slave or rebuilding it is =
far less labor intensive than pulling the motor and&nbsp; gearbox to get =
to the disc and pressure plate. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Frank =
Krajewski<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr=
om:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
dave via Mgs <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Se=
nt:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Monday, May 20, 2019 2:29 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To=
:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Su=
bject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Picked it up =
today =E2=80=93 when you start it in gear, it starts moving.&nbsp; =
Accelerate and it goes, and if you put in the clutch, it takes most of =
the pressure off but it still creeps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Am thinking&nbsp; that =
I=E2=80=99ll bleed the clutch slave cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>After that I=E2=80=99m =
thinking I need to replace the clutch . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color:black'> =
PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";>paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>=
&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 20, 2019 2:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> dave =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Mgs] bad clutch or?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Agree, it =
would be like the clutch was fully engaged.&nbsp; Most likely hydraulics =
as said, or possibly pilot bearing or friction plate =
binding.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>PaulH.</span><span =
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5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
-- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I=E2=80=99d check hydraulics first. If it was =
stuck I think you=E2=80=99d be doing more than =
creeping.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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