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Threads on oil can be endless. But synthetic vs non-synthetic is not the =
critical factor (depending on the history of your engine). The important =
thing is that it provide sufficient zinc and phosphorus (AKA ZDDP) to =
protect the lifters/tappets/cam followers in pre-smog-era MGs. All =
modern oils designed for use with catalytic converters do not provide =
adequate ZDDP (it clogs converters). You have to specifically select a =
compatible oil.
Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for =
other reasons, such as lack of detergent)
Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
Note that many people got into the habit of using diesel grade oils for =
this reason. But now that diesel emissions are under tighter control, =
these oils have also been stripped of ZDDP.=20
Read the spec sheets if you are concerned.
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'66 MGB
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
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> Bert=20
> 70 B=20
> SA4BRL=20
> PA0LPS
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> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =
> I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several =
years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free =
shipping. It has zddp.
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> =20
> Now its 1 to 2 months.
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> =20
> However =E2=80=93 Advanced Auto Parts - =
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synth=
etic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+ful=
l+synthetic =
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hetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+fu=
ll+synthetic>
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> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts. You can =
buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it=E2=80=99s a 6 pack), and =
it=E2=80=99s a couple pennies cheaper!!!
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class=3D"">Threads on oil can be endless. But synthetic vs non-synthetic =
is not the critical factor (depending on the history of your engine). =
The important thing is that it provide sufficient zinc and phosphorus =
(AKA ZDDP) to protect the lifters/tappets/cam followers in pre-smog-era =
MGs. All modern oils designed for use with catalytic converters do not =
provide adequate ZDDP (it clogs converters). You have to specifically =
select a compatible oil.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be =
non-optimal for other reasons, such as lack of detergent)</div><div =
class=3D"">Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this =
brand)</div><div class=3D"">Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, =
Gibbs<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Note that many people got into the habit of using diesel =
grade oils for this reason. But now that diesel emissions are under =
tighter control, these oils have also been stripped of =
ZDDP. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Read=
the spec sheets if you are concerned.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"mail_android_message" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1; padding: 0.5em;">Yes, =
also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.<br =
class=3D"">If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.<br class=3D"">I =
use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bert<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">70 B<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">SA4BRL<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">PA0LPS<br =
class=3D"">--<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br =
class=3D"">Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my =
brevity.</div><div class=3D"mail_android_quote" style=3D"font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1; =
padding: 0.3em;">On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0.8ex 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;"><div style=3D"margin:=
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for =
several years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon =
with free shipping. It has zddp.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"></p><div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Now its 1 to 2 months.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"></p><div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">However =E2=80=93 Advanced Auto Parts -<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-fu=
ll-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20=
w-50+full+synthetic" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: =
underline;" =
class=3D"">https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50=
-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline=
+20w-50+full+synthetic</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"></p><div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 =
quarts. You can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it=E2=80=99=
s a 6 pack), and it=E2=80=99s a couple pennies cheaper!!!</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
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