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To: "David F. Darby" <ddarby@centurytel.net>, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question
From: Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:44:47 -0500
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I carry a condenser, points & rotor in my emergency kit.  If I ever get 
around to rebuilding the stock fuel pump that I recently replaced, I'll 
carry it also.

CR

On 7/23/2019 10:03 AM, David F. Darby via Mgs wrote:
>
> A failed condenser stopped my MGB on the highway once.
>
> David
>
> On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
>     How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent
>     the points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
>
>     --
>
>     Max Heim
>
>     '66 MGB
>
>         On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs
>
>         could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not
>         causational. How old is the condenser? Even if newish, there
>         are lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I had three bad
>         ones with similar results, until replaced with  a Distributor
>         Doctor HD condenser.
>
>         Ira Erbs
>
>         Portland,OR
>
>               _______  _______
>              (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>         (_________________________)
>
>                 BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>         1967 MGB
>
>         A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario
>         Andretti
>
>         Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>         On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs
>
>             I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm
>             looking
>
>             for some confirmation (or not).  The local Mom-without-Pop
>             store put
>
>             in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now
>             is 92 octane (US)
>
>             alcohol-free gas.  I had about a quarter tank in my MGA
>             (w/MGB high
>
>             compression engine) so I went to fill up.  The pump with
>             the alcohol-
>
>             free gas was out of order!  So I put in three gallons of
>             regular 92
>
>             octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started
>             experiencing a lot
>
>             of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I
>             continued
>
>             driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would
>             clear up and it
>
>             never did.  I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel,
>             but I've never
>
>             encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of
>             driving.
>
>             The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the
>             station seems
>
>             like pretty good evidence.  Any other possibilities?  Is
>             there any option
>
>             other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?
>
>             Thanks!
>
>             David Brenemandavid_breneman@yahoo.com
>
>
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    I carry a condenser, points &amp; rotor in my emergency kit.  If I
    ever get around to rebuilding the stock fuel pump that I recently
    replaced, I'll carry it also.  <br>
    <br>
    CR<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 10:03 AM, David F. Darby
      via Mgs wrote:<br>
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            failed condenser stopped my MGB on the highway 
once.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs
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            <p class="MsoNormal">How do bad condensers cause rough
              running? All they do is prevent the points from burning.
              Oh, you are saying the points are burnt. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt">Max 
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt">'66 MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i
                      erbs via Mgs &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                        moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">could
                          also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental,
                          not causational. How old is the condenser?
                          Even if newish, there are lots of crappy new
                          Lucas parts out there. I had three bad ones
                          with similar results, until replaced with  a
                          Distributor Doctor HD condenser.<br
                            clear="all">
                          <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ira
                                                          Erbs 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p
                                                          
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt">      _______                                
                                                           _______<br>
                                                               (______
                                                          \____1959
                                                          BN4____/
                                                          _______)<br>
                                                                  
                                                          
(_________________________)</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
                                                                  BT7
                                                          engine and
                                                          disk 
brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p
                                                          
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">1967
                                                          MGB 
 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">A
                                                          racing car is
                                                          an animal with
                                                          a thousand
                                                          adjustments.
                                                          Mario 
Andretti</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Please
                                                          excuse random
                                                          auto corrects
                                                          and misspelled
                                                          
words<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On
                            Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman
                            via Mgs &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                              moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I've
                                    never encountered a "bad fuel"
                                    problem before, so I'm 
looking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">for
                                    some confirmation (or not).  The
                                    local Mom-without-Pop store 
put<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">in
                                    new pumps, and one of the things
                                    they're offering now is 92 octane
                                    (US)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">alcohol-free
                                    gas.  I had about a quarter tank in
                                    my MGA (w/MGB high<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">compression
                                    engine) so I went to fill up.  The
                                    pump with the alcohol-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                              </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">free
                                    gas was out of order!  So I put in
                                    three gallons of regular 92<span
                                      
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">octane,
                                    and about 1/4 mile from the station
                                    started experiencing a 
lot<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">of
                                    misfiring, mostly when accelerating
                                    in 3rd and 4th.  I 
continued<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    
class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">driving
                                      like this for about 20 miles to
                                      see if it would clear up and 
it</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    
class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">never
                                      did.  I can't imagine it's
                                      anything but the fuel, but I've
                                      never</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    
class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">encountered
                                      "bad fuel" situation like this in
                                      44 years of driving.</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    
class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The
                                      fact that it started about 1/4
                                      mile after leaving the station
                                      seems</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    
class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">like
                                      pretty good evidence.  Any other
                                      possibilities?  Is there any
                                      option</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">other
                                      than to just burn through this
                                      half tank of gas?</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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class="gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks! </span></span><span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">David
                                    Breneman<span
                                      class="apple-converted-space">  </span><a
href="mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com"; target="_blank"
                                      
moz-do-not-send="true">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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