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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question
From: Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:45:25 -0700
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Rough running, which was the stated symptom, as opposed to =E2=80=9Cnot =
running=E2=80=9D.

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> What do you mean by "intermediate state"?
>=20
> CR
>=20
> On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>> I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t =
see an explanation for an intermediate state.
>>=20
>> --
>> Max Heim
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com =
>>>=20
>>> Not true, Max.  When the points open, the condenser discharges =
through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark.  Without the =
condenser the engine may not even start.  Try it some time. :-)
>>>=20
>>> CR
>>>=20
>>> On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>> How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent =
the points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
>>>>=20
>>>> --
>>>> Max Heim
>>>> '66 MGB
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =
>>>>>=20
>>>>> could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not =
causational. How old is the condenser? Even if newish, there are lots of =
crappy new Lucas parts out there. I had three bad ones with similar =
results, until replaced with  a Distributor Doctor HD condenser.
>>>>> Ira Erbs
>>>>> Portland,OR
>>>>>       _______                                  _______
>>>>>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>>>>          (_________________________)
>>>>>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 1967 MGB =20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario =
Andretti
>>>>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs =
>>>>> I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking
>>>>> for some confirmation (or not).  The local Mom-without-Pop store =
put
>>>>> in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92 =
octane (US)
>>>>> alcohol-free gas.  I had about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB =
high
>>>>> compression engine) so I went to fill up.  The pump with the =
alcohol-
>>>>> free gas was out of order!  So I put in three gallons of regular =
92=20
>>>>> octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started experiencing a =
lot
>>>>> of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I =
continued
>>>>> driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear up =
and it
>>>>> never did.  I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but I've =
never
>>>>> encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of driving.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the station =
seems
>>>>> like pretty good evidence.  Any other possibilities?  Is there any =
option
>>>>> other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks! =20
>>>>>=20
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class=3D"">Rough running, which was the stated symptom, as opposed to =
=E2=80=9Cnot running=E2=80=9D.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; class=3D"">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
 =20
    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
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  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D"">
    What do you mean by "intermediate state"?<br class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
    CR<br class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via =
Mgs
      wrote:<br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:AACDF743-17DE-4DB9-B4F3-F3AEB3305B9E@sonic.net" class=3D"">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
      I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t =
see an
      explanation for an intermediate state.
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
        <div class=3D"">
          <div class=3D"">--</div>
          <div class=3D"">Max Heim</div>
          <div class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mvheim@sonic.net</a></div>
          <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
          </div>
          <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
        </div>
        <br class=3D"">
        <div class=3D"">
          <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
            <div class=3D"">On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley =
Robinson
              &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
            <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
            <div class=3D"">
              <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
                charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
              <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""> Not =
true,
                Max.&nbsp; When the points open, the condenser =
discharges
                through the coil in order to perpetuate the spark.&nbsp;
                Without the condenser the engine may not even =
start.&nbsp;
                Try it some time. <span class=3D"moz-smiley-s1"><span =
class=3D"">:-)</span></span><br class=3D"">
                <br class=3D"">
                CR<br class=3D"">
                <br class=3D"">
                <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max
                  Heim via Mgs wrote:<br class=3D"">
                </div>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:1212B08C-5593-45F0-9FF8-7DC9B6E1398F@sonic.net" class=3D"">
                  <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
                    charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
                  How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do
                  is prevent the points from burning. Oh, you are saying
                  the points are burnt.
                  <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
                    <div class=3D"">
                      <div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
                        start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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                        -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
                        break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
                        -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">
                        <div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align:
                          start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
                          white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
                          -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
                          break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
                          -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">
                          <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">--</div>
                          <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;
                            min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div>
                          <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">'66 MGB</div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
                    </div>
                    <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
                    </div>
                    <br class=3D"">
                    <div class=3D"">
                      <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
                        <div class=3D"">On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i
                          erbs via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</div>
                        <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
                        <div class=3D"">
                          <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: =
Verdana;
                            font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                            font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
                            normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align:
                            start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
                            none; white-space: normal; word-spacing:
                            0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">could also be a bad a condenser.
                            Could coincidental, not causational. How old
                            is the condenser? Even if newish, there are
                            lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I
                            had three bad ones with similar results,
                            until replaced with&nbsp; a Distributor =
Doctor HD
                            condenser.<br class=3D"" clear=3D"all">
                            <div class=3D"">
                              <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">
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                                                          <div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"">Ira
                                                          Erbs
                                                          <div =
class=3D"">Portland,OR</div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp; =
&nbsp;_______</span><br style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">
                                                          <span =
style=3D"font-family:
                                                          'Times New
                                                          Roman',
                                                          serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          (______
                                                          \____1959
                                                          BN4____/
                                                          =
_______)</span><br style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">
                                                          <span =
style=3D"font-family:
                                                          'Times New
                                                          Roman',
                                                          serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          =
(_________________________)</span></div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; BT7
                                                          engine and
                                                          disk =
brakes</div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D"">1967
                                                          MGB &nbsp;<img =
src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"; =
alt=3D"MG" class=3D"" moz-do-not-send=3D"true"></div>
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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                                                          Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          14px;" =
class=3D"">A
                                                          racing car is
                                                          an animal with
                                                          a thousand
                                                          adjustments.
                                                          Mario =
Andretti</span><br class=3D"">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div =
class=3D"">Please
                                                          excuse random
                                                          auto corrects
                                                          and misspelled
                                                          words</div>
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                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
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                            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Mon,
                              Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman
                              via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br class=3D"">
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
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                              <div class=3D"">
                                <div =
class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpec15941cyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family: verdana,
                                  helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
                                  13px;">
                                  <div class=3D"">
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">I've =
never
                                      encountered a "bad fuel" problem
                                      before, so I'm looking</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">for some
                                      confirmation (or not).&nbsp; The =
local
                                      Mom-without-Pop store put</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">in new
                                      pumps, and one of the things
                                      they're offering now is 92 octane
                                      (US)<br class=3D"">
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">alcohol-free
                                      gas.&nbsp; I had about a quarter =
tank
                                      in my MGA (w/MGB high</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">compression
                                      engine) so I went to fill =
up.&nbsp; The
                                      pump with the alcohol-</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">free gas =
was
                                      out of order!&nbsp; So I put in =
three
                                      gallons of regular 92<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">octane, =
and
                                      about 1/4 mile from the station
                                      started experiencing a lot</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">of
                                      misfiring, mostly when
                                      accelerating in 3rd and 4th.&nbsp; =
I
                                      continued</div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span =
class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">driving
                                          like this for about 20 miles
                                          to see if it would clear up
                                          and it</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">never
                                          did.&nbsp; I can't imagine =
it's
                                          anything but the fuel, but
                                          I've never</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span =
class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">encountered
                                          "bad fuel" situation like this
                                          in 44 years of =
driving.</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><br =
class=3D"">
                                        </span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">The
                                          fact that it started about 1/4
                                          mile after leaving the station
                                          seems</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like
                                          pretty good evidence.&nbsp; =
Any
                                          other possibilities?&nbsp; Is =
there
                                          any option</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other
                                          than to just burn through this
                                          half tank of =
gas?</span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"><br =
class=3D"">
                                        </span></span></div>
                                    <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span =
class=3D"gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">Thanks!&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span><br class=3D"">=

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                                    <div =
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                            word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
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 style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size:
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                            normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
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                            word-spacing: 0px;
                            -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none;
                            display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Suggested
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moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Mgs@autox.team.net</a>
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moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a>

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href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs"; =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; =
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href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.team.net/donate.html</=
a>

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