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To: "'i erbs'" <eyera3000@gmail.com>, "'Max Heim'" <mvheim@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question
From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 19:23:06 +0200
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I regularly wear a t-shirt with the text Lucas =E2=80=93 King of Darkness=
=E2=80=A6 

 

Cheers, Hans

71 BGT NRG WW =E2=80=93 kept in the garage as temps are at 37+ C overhere n=
ow=E2=80=A6

It never was so hot in the Netherlands.

 

 

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens i erbs via Mgs
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2019 19:15
Aan: Max Heim
CC: mglist
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question

 

My car ran rough, backfired and coughed under load, but did ok at low speed=
s. Replaced the condenser , ran fine for a few hundred miles, then failed a=
gain.  Both were new Lucas units. Put in an old stock one, car ran fine unt=
il I replace with HD condenser. 

 

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 9:45 AM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

Rough running, which was the stated symptom, as opposed to =E2=80=9Cnot run=
ning=E2=80=9D.

 

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB

 

On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:

 

What do you mean by "intermediate state"?

CR

On 7/23/2019 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:

I understand how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t see an e=
xplanation for an intermediate state. 

 

--

Max Heim

mvheim@sonic.net

 

 

 

On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:

 

Not true, Max.  When the points open, the condenser discharges through the =
coil in order to perpetuate the spark.  Without the condenser the engine ma=
y not even start.  Try it some time. :-)

CR

On 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:

How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent the point=
s from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt. 

 

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB

 

 

 

On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

 

could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not causational. How o=
ld is the condenser? Even if newish, there are lots of crappy new Lucas par=
ts out there. I had three bad ones with similar results, until replaced wit=
h  a Distributor Doctor HD condenser.


Ira Erbs 

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

          BT7 engine and disk brakes

 

 

1967 MGB   MG <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem=
=2Ejpg> 

 

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

 

 

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net=
> wrote:

I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking

for some confirmation (or not).  The local Mom-without-Pop store put

in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92 octane (US)

alcohol-free gas.  I had about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high

compression engine) so I went to fill up.  The pump with the alcohol-

free gas was out of order!  So I put in three gallons of regular 92 

octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started experiencing a lot

of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I continued

driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear up and it

never did.  I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but I've never

encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of driving.

 

The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the station seems

like pretty good evidence.  Any other possibilities?  Is there any option

other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?

 

Thanks!  

 

David Breneman  david_breneman@yahoo.com

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=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US=
 style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>I regularly wear a t-shirt with the text Lucas =E2=80=93 King of Darkness=
=E2=80=A6 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US sty=
le=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers, =
Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>71 BGT N=
RG WW =E2=80=93 kept in the garage as temps are at 37+ C overhere now=E2=80=
=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It never =
was so hot in the Netherlands.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span la=
ng=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mgs [mailto=
:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>Namens </b>i erbs via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:<=
/b> dinsdag 23 juli 2019 19:15<br><b>Aan:</b> Max Heim<br><b>CC:</b> mglist=
<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My car ran =
rough, backfired and coughed under load, but did ok at low speeds. Replaced=
 the condenser , ran fine for a few hundred miles, then failed again.&nbsp;=
 Both were new Lucas units. Put in an old stock one, car ran fine until I r=
eplace with HD condenser.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 9:4=
5 AM Max Heim via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none=
;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8p=
t;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Rough running, which was the =
stated symptom, as opposed to =E2=80=9Cnot running=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;colo=
r:black'>Max Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>'66 MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquo=
te style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Charley Robinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Charle=
y38@twc.com" target=3D"_blank">Charley38@twc.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>What do you mean by &quot;intermediat=
e state&quot;?<br><br>CR<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/23/20=
19 11:03 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=
=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I understand=
 how it could make the car inoperable. I don=E2=80=99t see an explanation f=
or an intermediate state. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Max Heim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a=
 href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; target=3D"_blank">mvheim@sonic.net</a><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p><div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Charley Robinson &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com"; target=3D"_blank">Charley38@twc.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Not true, Ma=
x.&nbsp; When the points open, the condenser discharges through the coil in=
 order to perpetuate the spark.&nbsp; Without the condenser the engine may =
not even start.&nbsp; Try it some time. <span class=3Dm5125570201452341329m=
oz-smiley-s1>:-)</span><br><br>CR<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>O=
n 7/22/2019 1:18 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>How d=
o bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent the points fro=
m burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Max Heim<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>'66=
 MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote style=3D'm=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 22, 2=
019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>could also be=
 a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not causational. How old is the con=
denser? Even if newish, there are lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there.=
 I had three bad ones with similar results, until replaced with&nbsp; a Dis=
tributor Doctor HD condenser.<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","san=
s-serif"'>Ira Erbs <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Portland,OR<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9=
=2E0pt'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp;_______<br></span><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana"=
,"sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</spa=
n><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><br></span><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt=
;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (___=
______________________)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-ser=
if"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>1967 MGB &nbsp;<im=
g border=3D0 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.co=
m/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3DMG><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sa=
ns-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>A racing car=
 is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspell=
ed words<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verd=
ana","sans-serif"'>On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:n=
one;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4=
=2E8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I've never encou=
ntered a &quot;bad fuel&quot; problem before, so I'm looking<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>for some confirmation (or not).&nbsp; The l=
ocal Mom-without-Pop store put<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"=
'>in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92 octane (US=
)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>alcohol-free gas.&nbsp; I h=
ad about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdan=
a","sans-serif"'>compression engine) so I went to fill up.&nbsp; The pump w=
ith the alcohol-<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>free gas was=
 out of order!&nbsp; So I put in three gallons of regular 92<span class=3Dm=
5125570201452341329apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station start=
ed experiencing a lot<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>of misf=
iring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.&nbsp; I continued<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dm5125570201452341=
329gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>driving like this for about 20 miles to=
 see if it would clear up and it</span></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m9075250362783882=
819ydpd1457413st><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","san=
s-serif"'>never did.&nbsp; I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but =
I've never</span></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdan=
a","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n class=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>encountered =
&quot;bad fuel&quot; situation like this in 44 years of driving.</span></sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m907525=
0362783882819ydpd1457413st><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ver=
dana","sans-serif"'>The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving t=
he station seems</span></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span class=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>like p=
retty good evidence.&nbsp; Any other possibilities?&nbsp; Is there any opti=
on</span></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans=
-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=
=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>other than to just=
 burn through this half tank of gas?</span></span><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana"=
,"sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span class=3Dm5125570201452341329gmail-m9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st><=
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rif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
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