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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas
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Yes, measure the voltage right on the battery posts (adding the two =
voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, then compare that =
with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the solenoid and starter =
body when cranking.  The difference between the two is what is being =
lost in the connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't be much =
more than that.

If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts then that is the =
problem.

PaulH.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  =20
  Next job is the slow starter motor.=20

  I already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the battery =
to chassis cable.

  Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable.=20

  Nothing helped so far.

  So next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I assume =
it will be o.k. as the battery is new.

  Following step will be measuring the voltage over the starter motor =
+12V to the engine.

  When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled, this is =
logical.

  Nice winter job.

  =20

  Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Dan DiBiase
  Verzonden: donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26
  Aan: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
  CC: mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>; MGB-Yahoo <mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com>
  Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas

  =20

  OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and obvious, =
now!) advice..............................

  =20

  Dan D


  http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

  =20

  =20

  On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay =
<richardolindsay@gmail.com> wrote:

    I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long =
bit of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump =
old fuel into jugs.

    =20

    On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> =
wrote:

      Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was =
recently returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did =
not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I =
had it towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out =
most of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just =
under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge =
accuracy).=20

      =20

      I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the =
interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond =
a certain area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really =
like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up.

      =20

      Thx,=20

      =20

      Dan D

      '76B-  Getting There

      '65B - Waiting It's Turn

      Central NJ USA


      http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yes,&nbsp;measure the voltage&nbsp;right on the =
battery posts=20
(adding the two voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, =
then=20
compare that with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the =
solenoid&nbsp;and=20
starter body when cranking.&nbsp; The difference between the two is what =
is=20
being lost in the connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't =
be much=20
more than that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts=20
then&nbsp;that&nbsp;is the problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
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  <DIV class=3DWordSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>Next=20
  job is the slow starter motor. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=20
  already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the battery =
to=20
  chassis cable.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>Also=20
  cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US"=20
  lang=3DEN-GB>Nothing helped so far.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>So=20
  next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I assume it =
will be=20
  o.k. as the battery is new.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US"=20
  lang=3DEN-GB>Following step will be measuring the voltage over the =
starter motor=20
  +12V to the engine.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>When=20
  o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled, this is=20
  logical.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US" =
lang=3DEN-GB>Nice=20
  winter job.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US"=20
  lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B>Van:</B> Mgs =
&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;=20
  <B>Namens </B>Dan DiBiase<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> donderdag 22 oktober =
2020=20
  22:26<BR><B>Aan:</B> Richard Lindsay=20
  &lt;richardolindsay@gmail.com&gt;<BR><B>CC:</B> mglist=20
  &lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;; MGB-Yahoo=20
  &lt;mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com&gt;<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> Re: [Mgs] =
Siphoning=20
  Gas<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this =
excellent=20
  (and obvious, now!) =
advice..............................<o:p></o:p></P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Dan D<BR clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></P>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><A href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>=
</DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay =
&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com";>richardolindsay@gmail.com</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm">
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel =
hose,=20
    added a a long bit of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the =
fuel=20
    pump to pump old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase =
&lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>dan.dibiase@gmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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4.8pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-RIGHT: medium =
none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm">
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>Hi all.... My '76B, which&nbsp;was off the =
road for 5=20
      years, was recently returned to me from the shop. They added some =
new gas=20
      but did not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just under =
1/2 tank=20
      when I had it towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want =
to=20
      siphon out most of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently =
showing as=20
      just under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less =
(assuming gauge=20
      accuracy).&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am =
wondering=20
      if the interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move =
the hose=20
      beyond a certain area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. =
Would=20
      really like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it=20
      up.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>Thx,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>Dan D<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>'76B-&nbsp; Getting =
There<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>'65B - Waiting It's Turn<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal>Central NJ USA<BR clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></P>
      <DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><A href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"=20
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