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To: h.duinhoven@planet.nl, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:52:20 -0700
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Just to put an end to this thread, the turn signals work now.  I replaced
the hazard switch and like magic the turn signals started working again.
Added bonus, the hazard light work now too!  ( They never did since I have
owned this car over a year now)  I guess the switch was somewhat broken
from the start.  Just not broken enough to stop the turn signals. Woohoo!
Mike MacLean

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 9:48 AM <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wrote:

> The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to
> time.
>
> Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure this till now.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> 71 BGT
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *Namens *Michael MacLean
> *Verzonden:* Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31
> *Aan:* Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>; mgs@autox.team.net
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
>
>
>
> I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal
> problem.  This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.
> After looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical
> Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.
> Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.  I was
> showing him what switches worked and which didn't.   One of the switches
> that has never worked was the hazard switch.  I clicked it back and forth
> to show him.  Right after that the turn signals quit.  Until I looked at
> the wiring diagram I did not put it together.  I just went out to the car
> to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would
> start working.  Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.
>  It lasted 52 years.  No complaints.  I have ordered a new switch from
> Moss.  We'll see if that fixes it.  I might even get hazard flashers out =
of
> it too.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         A dog saboteur, perhaps?
>         I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring
> that power is getting to each filament.   Check that the earth wires, if
> present, are earthing.
>         Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each
> fuse is good by measuring power through it.  It=E2=80=99s possible to see=
m OK with
> ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.
> Bob
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.co=
m>
> wrote:
> >
> > Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.  I
> have replaced the flasher unit.  I know it is getting power because it
> audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.  I
> checked the fuses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in th=
e
> front and they were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.  I'=
m
> kind of at a loss here.  They were working when I stopped the car at the
> dog park and the just weren't working when I started the car back up.
> Anything else I can check here?
> > Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"auto">Just to put an end to this thread, the turn signals work =
now.=C2=A0 I replaced the hazard switch and like magic the turn signals sta=
rted working again.=C2=A0 Added bonus, the hazard light work now too!=C2=A0=
 ( They never did since I have owned this car over a year now)=C2=A0 I gues=
s the switch was somewhat broken from the start.=C2=A0 Just not broken enou=
gh to stop the turn signals. Woohoo!<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 9:48 AM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.=
duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div lang=3D"NL" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-wo=
rd"><div class=3D"m_6355166685451725930WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing thi=
s issue from time to time.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB">Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cur=
e this till now. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-GB">Hans<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">71 BGT<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-=
top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>Namens </b=
>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31<br><b>Aan=
:</b> Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:=
mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net=
</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem.=
=C2=A0 This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.=C2=A0 A=
fter looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley&#39;s book (MGB Electrica=
l Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.=
=C2=A0 Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.=
=C2=A0 I was showing him what switches worked and which didn&#39;t.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0One of the switches that has never worked was the hazard switch.=C2=
=A0 I clicked it back and forth to show him.=C2=A0 Right after that the tur=
n signals quit.=C2=A0 Until I looked at the wiring diagram I did not put it=
 together.=C2=A0 I just went out to the car to see if I rocked the switch b=
ack and forth maybe the turn signals would start working.=C2=A0 Instead the=
 switch broke internally and refused to move.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It lasted 52 year=
s.=C2=A0 No complaints.=C2=A0 I have ordered a new switch from Moss.=C2=A0 =
We&#39;ll see if that fixes it.=C2=A0 I might even get hazard flashers out =
of it too.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike MacLean<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert&#39;s New =
iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote s=
tyle=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0=
pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A dog saboteur, perhaps? <br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I w=
ould start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring that power is=
 getting to each filament.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Check that the earth wires, if prese=
nt, are earthing.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then review the connection=
s of wires to the fuses, and test each fuse is good by measuring power thro=
ugh it.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK with ohmmeter yet have insuf=
ficient current to light the lights.=C2=A0 <br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 1=
6, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">springer.mike51@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT=
 just stopped working.=C2=A0 I have replaced the flasher unit.=C2=A0 I know=
 it is getting power because it audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip =
the turn signal stalk.=C2=A0 I checked the fuses, both are good.=C2=A0 I ch=
ecked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK.=C2=A0 The rear =
turn signals are LED and quite new.=C2=A0 I&#39;m kind of at a loss here.=
=C2=A0 They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and the jus=
t weren&#39;t working when I started the car back up.=C2=A0 Anything else I=
 can check here?<br>&gt; Mike MacLean<br>&gt; _____________________________=
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