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Re: [oletrucks] Monthly Reminder

To: Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Monthly Reminder
From: New Mexico Jim <ADvent@thuntek.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:22:27 -0600
I think he was talking about the little animated gif's that some people have at
the bottom of the e-mail they send you, not a link.

Wayne Osborne wrote:

> Are we talking about the link that folks put at the bottom of their signature?
> and are you stating Miq that this is not acceptable?
>   I understand the logic behind not attaching a picture, but just a link to
> a photo is just basically another line of text.  What makes this different
> than providing a link to a web site in the body of the message.   wayne
>
> At 08:20 AM 8/1/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Allen Coblentz says:
> >>
> >> How 'bout these new "signature pics" that have been turning up a the
> bottom of
> >> list members e-mails?  Are these html formatted?....and the pictures, isn't
> >> that considered an "image"?  Hey, I'm not complaining, I'd like to use one
> >> also,...but I don't want to 'break the rules.'  The rules are there for a
> >> reason, and if this can be harmful to the list, let's clear it up before a
> >> problem arises.
> >>   They do look great, though!  If there is no problem, it would be a great
> >> 'identifier' for everyone on the list.
> >
> >[answer CC:'d to oletrucks for everyone to get]
> >
> >Here's how this list works:
> >
> >You send a message to one address, oletrucks@autox.team.net
> >
> >Majordomo takes your message and looks at the list membership, currently
> >we are at 823 members in the combined list+digest, and makes a copy of the
> >message for each member's email address.
> >
> >Then Majordomo runs through all those copies and sends out each one.
> >
> >I've been watching the traffic on "Rob's smaller list" and notice that each
> >signature message adds about 350-400 lines of text.  This message here that
> >I am sending is about 50 lines long, and pretty typical.  With the high
> >speed connections at most homes today this extra bandwidth (about 8 times)
> >may not seem like much, and on an individual basis you would be right.
> >
> >However there is a very important point here: remember what I said about
> >how the list works?  The server for majordomo has to make 823 copies of
> >everything and then process those 823 messages for each single message you
> >make.  It's not the network speed that is the issue here, its the
> >processing on the system.  The server is also running 60 other lists with
> >similar user bases.
> >
> >So lets do a bit of math here.....
> >
> >               Allow images to list            Keep list text only
> >Message length         450                             60
> >* 80 characters                36000                           4800
> >* 823 members          29628000                        3950400
> >
> >Quick interjection of a question here:  which would you rather download to
> >get to oletrucks information, a 29 megabyte file or a 4 megabyte file?
> >
> >* 60 mailing lists     1777680000 (1.8 Gigabytes)      237024000 (234 Meg)
> >
> >Another quick interjection: now which file would you rather download?
> >
> >End of math lesson.
> >
> >Remember that many of the images are actually much larger, like in the
> >35000-40000 line length, or roughly 100 times the size I was using in the
> >example.  I'll leave that equation to the reader.
> >
> >So to make a long answer short:  yes those nifty image sigs are HTML, and
> >yes they are Images, and yes they are verbotten on Oletrucks.
> >
> >--
> >__
> >Miq Millman   miq@teleport.com
> >Tualatin, OR
> >oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> >
> Wayne Osborne
> 1956 Chevy Pickup
> LaGrange Ga.
> http://www.chevytrucks.org/users/wayne
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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