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Re: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...

To: Steve Hanberg <steve@OldSub.com>
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
From: "A.B." <bigfred@unm.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:48:12 -0600 (MDT)
Ah...
Should have followed the thread. hehehe...


On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Steve Hanberg wrote:

> I think that's a bit different than what I'm looking for.  I have a 4-speed
> Saginaw with the OD from a 3-speed adapted to it.  The conversion was
> performed based on an article in Hot Rod in the 70's.
>
> I ran it in a Firebird for a while, and then one of my brothers ran it in a
> V-8 powered Vega for a while.  I pulled it out of my dad's garage a few
> months ago, thinking it would go well in my old suburban, but the shifter
> was gone, and I've not been able to find anything even close.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A.B." <bigfred@unm.edu>
> To: "Steve Hanberg" <steve@oldsub.com>
> Cc: "Ralph Linnell" <chevysix@attbi.com>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
>
>
> > I've got the old 3spd (on the tree) with an overdrive unit... maybe we're
> > talking about something else, but I think my overdrive unit would bolt up
> > to either the three on the tree or the 4-floor.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Steve Hanberg wrote:
> >
> > > Are you running a Saginaw 4-speed with overdrive?
> > >
> > > I don't recall seeing anything about that combination on the old
> suburban
> > > site, but would love to see pictures or your shifter if you have any.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "A.B." <bigfred@unm.edu>
> > > To: "Ralph Linnell" <chevysix@attbi.com>
> > > Cc: "'Steve Hanberg'" <Steve@DotComGeeks.com>;
> <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hmmm... YOu may be talking about me!
> > > > Check on the old suburban website (http anyone???) for the set up and
> > > > detail schematics.
> > > > -alfie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Ralph Linnell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I sold the tranny and the shifter to a young man who used to be on
> this
> > > > > list. It was fairly elaborate modification to the shifter as the
> shifter
> > > > > for the four speed mounts right where the solenoid is. I don't
> remember
> > > > > all of the details but I had to build a bracket to mount the shifter
> > > > > higher up from the tranny. Originally, Jack sent me a set of
> pictures of
> > > > > his setup, but I don't have them anymore. I used his idea with a few
> > > > > modifications. I did have some pictures of my modified setup. If I
> can
> > > > > find them I will email them to you off the list. I don't have any
> idea
> > > > > where the pictures are but if I find them I will let you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph Linnell
> > > > > Membership Chairman Inliners  International
> > > > >
> > > > > Inliners WebSite
> > > > > http://www.inliners.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph's Web Site
> > > > > http://home.attbi.com/~chevysix/
> > > > >
> > > > > Chevysix@attbi.com
> > > > >
> > > > > All email, both in comming and outgoing should be virus free being
> > > > > scanned by  Norton Anti-Virus.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:Steve@DotComGeeks.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:31 AM
> > > > > To: Ralph Linnell
> > > > > Cc: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
> > > > >
> > > > > What became of the one you had?  Do you still have it, and would you
> > > > > consider selling it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ralph Linnell" <chevysix@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <GremlinGTs@aol.com>; <Wdonohoe1@aol.com>; <>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:41 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Both Jack Halton and myself went thru this with the
> > > > > > Saginaw 4 speed with the 3 speed overdrive adapted to it. I looked
> for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > long time for the proper shifter but never found one. I even
> talked to
> > > > > > an elderly gentleman who used to work for Hurst before they were
> > > > > bought
> > > > > > out. He told me that the Saginaw 3 speed was a very popular item
> back
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the 60s and Hurst made a shifter just for that application. But
> they
> > > > > > discontinued it in the early 70s. Anyway I, and I think Jack,
> bought a
> > > > > 4
> > > > > > speed shifter from Patrick's and did the modification to make it
> work
> > > > > in
> > > > > > our trucks. Jack has an early 50s GMC and I have a 62 Chevy
> pickup. I
> > > > > > used mine until I put the 700R4 behind my 261 engine. So Good luck
> in
> > > > > > finding a shifter that will work with the Saginaw OD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph Linnell
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inliners WebSite
> > > > > > http://www.inliners.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph's Web Site
> > > > > > http://home.attbi.com/~chevysix/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chevysix@attbi.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All email, both in comming and outgoing should be virus free being
> > > > > > scanned by  Norton Anti-Virus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-oletrucks@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > > GremlinGTs@aol.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:16 PM
> > > > > > To: Wdonohoe1@aol.com; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] overdrive - how they work...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Depends on the trans, Bill, but most OD tranmissions have a
> > > > > > distinctly
> > > > > > separate part that houses several plantary gears and a reducer to
> > > > > lower
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > ratio. The Tranmission is usually longer than  standard to house
> this
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > gearing. I have several of the 57-58 Chevy 3-speed OD trannys, and
> > > > > they
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > a different rear housing that is longer, to house the extra
> reduction
> > > > > > gearing. I think the front part is the same, though. At one point
> in
> > > > > > time,
> > > > > > there was an after-market company that produced an add-on OD unit
> that
> > > > > > fit
> > > > > > between the tail shaft of the trans and a cut-down driveshaft. I
> doubt
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > still available, though. A more modern solution was one written up
> in
> > > > > > Car
> > > > > > Craft mag a few years ago, it used a Mopar A-833 tranmission with
> OD,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > the same GM bellhousing bolt housing so it is a virtual bolt-in to
> a
> > > > > > Chevy,
> > > > > > albeit it need a slight machining of the front bearing housing to
> slip
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > bell housing. I think the early '70s aluminum trans was specified,
> NOT
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > older one which is cast iron.
> > > > > >     Anyway, that's all my knowledge I can transfer. Mind meld
> > > > > > complete....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jerry Casper
> > > > > > '55 Chevy Suburban, languising project truck
> > > > > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > > > > 1959
> > > > > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > > > > 1959
> > > > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> 1959
oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959

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