...and none of the tires on that truck were ever balanced after new either...
Mark Noakes
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:38:14 -0700, "Steve Hanberg" wrote:
>
> I have a good answer for that!
>
> I got a free rotate and balance deal when I bought my tires. Keeping the
> tires balanced does significantly improve how it feels at speed. It doesn't
> make sense to ask them to balance and NOT rotate....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mark@noakes.com>
> To: <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>
> Cc: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
>
>
> Another argument is why rotate at all?
>
> On my 86 Chevy pickup, I never rotated tires. The OEM Uniroyals went 48K
> miles with
> even wear, and then I put 2 sets of Michelins on it that each went 80K miles
> with even
> wear. Then I put a set of cheapy tires on it now that the truck is getting
> a little
> worn at 230K miles...but I'm still not rotating tires on it...
>
> Our technician at work drove a roughly equivalent era F*rd pickup, he
> rotated tires
> religiously, and that truck still ate tires at more than twice my rate.
>
> I do rotate tires on my wife's Jeep Wrangler and any front wheel drive car
> I've had ate
> front tires as well.
>
> Mark Noakes
>
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:40:48 -0400, "Jim Wilkerson" wrote:
>
> >
> > A quick (and unscientific) search on radial tire rotation resulted in a
> general
> > consensus that cross-rotation of radial tires is OK and even recommended
> by some
> > manufacturers. Here is a typical comment:
> >
> > http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/techtips/532.html
> >
> >
> >
> > ***********************************************************************
> > Jim Wilkerson
> > ***********************************************************************
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:steve@oldsub.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:46 PM
> > To: mark@noakes.com
> > Cc: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> >
> >
> > Or perhaps you were corrected by someone who didn't know what they were
> talking about,
> > or maybe it never really made any difference in the first place...
> >
> > The so-called experts can't all be right, given how much of the time they
> disagree on
> > things!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mark@noakes.com>
> > To: <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>
> > Cc: <steve@oldsub.com>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> >
> >
> > I remember saying the same thing a while back and being corrected on it.
> Apparently
> > radial tire technology is now to the point that you don't have to keep the
> direction of
> > rotation the same any more.
> >
> > Having said that, my 86 Chevy truck manual says to keep them the same as
> does my 86
> > Corvette manual and my wife's 97 Jeep manual. (Most vette tires are
> directional
> anyway.)
> >
> > So either radial technology that doesn't care about direction is a fairly
> recent
> > development or the car manufacturers aren't listening to the tire
> manufacturers.
> >
> > Mark Noakes
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:50:42 -0400, "Jim Wilkerson" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I agree it would be best to have the same size. What are the
> > recommendations for tire
> > > rotation nowadays? For example, could I rotate the spare into the
> > > regular
> > rotation or
> > > do right-side tires have to stay on the right side and vice versa?
> > > Seems
> > like I read
> > > somewhere that the direction of rotation has to stay the same.
> > >
> > > **********************************************************************
> > > *
> > > Jim Wilkerson
> > > ***********************************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:steve@oldsub.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:22 AM
> > > To: Jim Wilkerson; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > You might want to check with the manufacturer to see how much
> > > difference
> > is
> > acceptable.
> > > I have an all-wheel drive car, and there is a specification regarding
> > > how
> > close to
> > > identical the diameter of each tire must be.
> > >
> > > But since you've only got two driven wheels, an spare that doesn't
> > > match
> > the rears
> > could
> > > always be put on the front, and one of the fronts moved to the rear,
> > > in a
> > pinch.
> > >
> > > Probably better to have the right size spare...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "wayne osborne" <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> > > To: "Jim Wilkerson" <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>; "Gary Perry"
> > <glperry@fwi.com>;
> > > <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:53 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > > Seems to me the rule of thumb should be to use the same diameter
> > > tire
> > for a spare
> > > regarding a posi rear. Might be hard on the clutch pack in a limited
> > > slip
> > to run any
> > > distance with mismatched set. A true posi, where there is no slip
> > > wouldn't
> > be able to
> > > handle it very long as you'd probably bust an axle or the differential
> > before long. I
> > > would personally get the same diameter for a spare.--wayne
> > >
> > >
> > > At 02:49 PM 9/22/03 -0400, Jim Wilkerson wrote:
> > > >Thanks Gary! And Thanks to Bob Chansler also. According to a tire
> > > >size calculator I found the closest to the original 6.50 x 16 is a
> > > >P215R80 - 16
> > > .
> > > >
> > > >What is the 'rule of thumb' for vehicles with positraction and
> > > >running different size wheel/tire combos on the rear? For example,
> > > >is it absolutely necessary that the spare tire is exactly the same
> > > >diameter as the regular tires? The same circumference? Or is it OK
> > > >to run a completely different size - for short distances? If yes,
> > > >what is a short distance?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > >*********************************************************************
> > > >**
> > > >Jim Wilkerson
> > > >***********************************************************************
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Gary Perry [mailto:glperry@fwi.com]
> > > >Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:38 PM
> > > >To: Jim Wilkerson; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> > > >Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I don't know for sure, but think you need 80 or 85 series tire to be
> > > >that tall. Also think only a 195 or such narrow tire to stay orig
> > > >looking. Myself would get wider and smaller diameter, probly for
> > > >better ride. Speedo may be off, but So What, I say!
> > > >
> > > >G. L. Grumpy's
> > > >Old Iron Ranch
> > > >Huntington, IN 46750
> > > >AD trucks and MM tractors
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jim Wilkerson" <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>
> > > >To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> > > >Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:19 PM
> > > >Subject: [oletrucks] Old Tire Sizes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know what the modern tire size equivalent would be for
> > > > > the
> > > >original 6.50 x 16 tires that came on the '53 Chevy AD trucks?
> > > >Assuming a radial, I want a tire with the same diameter and
> > > >approximately the same width. i.e. P205R70 -16 or LT20575-16 or
> > > >????
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > ******************************************************************
> > > > > **
> > > > > **
> > > > > *
> > > > > Jim Wilkerson
> > > > >
> > ***********************************************************************
> > > > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > 1959
> > > >oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > > >1959
> > >
> > > Wayne Osborne
> > > http://www.chevytrucks.org
> > > http://www.chevytrucks.org/wayne
> > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > > 1959 oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941
> > > and 1959
> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
> oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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