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RE: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)

To: "'Mike Gigante'" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>, "'spridgets@Autox.Team.Net'" <spridgets@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: RE: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
From: Jeff Zurschmeide <zurschmeidej@interactivenw.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:33:32 -0800
Reply-to: Jeff Zurschmeide <zurschmeidej@interactivenw.com>
Sender: owner-spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
Once you go welded, I don't think you'll want to go back. 
I use a welded 4.5, and when you go to lay down power,
it lays down and that's that. Your descriptions of technique
sound very much like what I do (as I said) with my welded
diff. 

JZ


>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Mike Gigante [SMTP:mikeg@vicnet.net.au]
>Sent:  Thursday, October 29, 1998 10:43 PM
>To:    spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
>Subject:       Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>
>I should have mentioned that all of this pertains to driving with
>an open diff.
>
>If you use a locker or an LSD, these techniques may or may not be
>useful. I don't know.
>
>One day I'll actually buy an LSD and I'll find out for myself..... Somewhere
>in the shed I have a welded 4.5 diff, I might try that at a motorkhana this
>weekend if I can find it.
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Gigante <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
>To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:08 PM
>Subject: Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>
>
>>
>>OK, here goes. I think I have rationalised what I do. I just do it on the
>>track,
>>I don't really think about it!!!!
>>
>>In normal hard driving (and in many "how to race" books), you approach
>>a corner at speed; hit the brakes; turn into corner still braking; apply
>>power
>>at the apex; accelerate out of corner.
>>
>>If you do this effectively, the weight transfer ensures that the inside
>rear
>>is
>>well and truly unladen at the apex, and applying power will result in
>>wheelspin (948's aside :-). Once you have the wheelspin you have to back
>>off a little or straighten up. Either way, you've lost valuable corner exit
>>speed
>>and your time will be *slow*!
>>
>>This is what I have done to avoid this. YMMV of course.
>>
>>I approach the corner, brake harder than anyone else ( :-), off the brakes
>>while still in a straight line and get back on the power at turn-in.
>>Actually
>>the process could be:  off brakes, turn-in, allow the rear end to get a
>>little
>>loose, apply power *OR* off brakes, apply power and turn-in at the same
>>time *OR* off brakes, apply power, turn-in.
>>
>>I know it sounds stupid, but I
>>am not really sure how it ended up. I consciously tried all of these once
>>upon
>>a time and now I just do it. I'd actually have to think about it next time
>>I'm
>>on the track (Nov 7/8, Eastern Creek 6 hour relay race) to tell you which I
>>actually use!!!
>>
>>Why do this? Well the weight transfer under acceleration is to the rear
>>wheels
>>and this means you won't lift the inside rear. Furthermore, applying full
>>power
>>like this (and a little opposite lock) gets the car into a proper 4 wheel
>>drift,
>>even in relatively low speed tighter turns.
>>
>>On really tight stuff, you'll definitely need to flick the back out by
>>turning in off
>>the throttle and get back on the throttle again in time to keep it from
>>spinning.
>>
>>As a result of all this, your corner exit speed will be high, you'll be on
>>the throttle
>>all the way through the bend and you'll have more fun than everyone else
>>too!
>>
>>I hope this is a good enough explanation. If not, you'll just have to be
>>passenger in my car and observe it for yourself!!!!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM <CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM>
>>To: mikeg@vicnet.net.au <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
>>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 2:52 PM
>>Subject: Autox Sprite Handling Questions
>>
>>
>>>Ref:  Your note of Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:29:09 -0800
>>>
>>>>>Since I'll never be competing with you, I'm prepared to share this info!
>>:-)
>>>
>>>  Since I'M half a world away too; you wanna copy me on what you send him?
>>>  :-) Ed in NC ;-)   (Just for my own info. I havn't run autocross
>>regularly
>>>                       in years.)
>>>
>>
>

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