Jim,
Good job finding the problem. It will likely happen again at some point,
mbut then again you might be spared for a while. I think maybe your car has
an identity crisis and is the likely cause...
...seriously though, you either have a badly worn ring gear, a damaged
starter drive gear, or maybe the Bendix just needs some lurication. You
should remove the starter and see if you can determine the most likely
cause. The engine usually stops in a couple of the same spots as it hits a
compression stroke, so the ring gear wild wear most in the palces where the
stater pinion always bangs against it. It literally get slammed into the
edge of the ring gear and will either break a couple teeth eventually or
just wear the egde down, slurring the metal to one side. This could cause
you to bind up in a particulary bad spot. An inspection with a small mirror
through the starter hole should give you an idea. Make sure the Bendix
returns home freely and apply a little grease while you have it out to
check for burrs and wear on the pinion.
Gerard
At 8:54 AM -0800 3/31/02, James Gruber wrote:
>Need to know why this happened. Was cruising in Bugsy
>yesterday and stopped car to go in a store. All
>systems seem to be working in their own inane LBC way.
>And ever since I've had the car it has never done
>this.
>
>Got back in car, turned key, nothing. Try again,
>nothing. Radio come on but starter will not engage.
>Tried to push start once or twice thinking must be
>some strange electrical connection malfunction, rear
>wheels lock up and engine will not turn over, sputter,
>or do anything at all. Push car to side of parking lot
>to cogitate and pull out the most absolute tool and
>accessory that any LBC Car owner needs to carry with
>them at all times, the cell phone.
>
>Got a ride home and loaded trunk up with every
>possible tool I could think of and hurried back to
>rescue Bugsy. I determined that solenoid was working
>ok and juice was getting to the starter. Started
>checking starter connections and noticed that there
>was a 5/16" square stud coming out of the end of the
>starter. Reasoning that since engine would not turn
>over even with pushing that starter might possibly be
>jammed against flywheel in some strange LBC fashion.
>Took my trusty adjustable box wrench tried turning one
>way and it would not budge. Tried the other way,
>slowly turned and then would rotate freely by finger
>fressure so it would just spin around. Touched the key
>and voila Bugsy roars, well that's a matter of
>opinion, back to life.
>
>So what is this arcane bit of LBC engineering, how do
>I keep from having it happen again or do I simply make
>sure I keep the adjustable box wrench in the car at
>all times as a preventative measure. After all this is
>a LBC and it's one of the quirks of owning one.
>
>Multiple starts and stops later no problems with
>starter rest of day. I will add that I need to check
>timing as Bugsy will sometimes diesel when he gets
>turned off. Possibly that one last shudder after
>dieseling turned engine backwards slightly thus doing
>something to cause the starter to jam. Humm??? I know
>the answer to this question will be quickly explained.
>Thanks for the help.
>
>
>
>=====
>Jim Gruber
>Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
>Dayton, OH
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