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Subject: Rod Length
From: rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu (Bob Palmer)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 97 15:24:58 PDT
Guys,

Recently, one of you out there mentioned using 289 rods in a 302 to improve 
torque.  At least I remember something along those lines.  Here's another 
subject we could probably spend days on and perhaps get nowhere.  However, 
there's been a lot of hype in various hot rod magazines, etc. about using 
longer rods and the beneficial effect on piston velocity, torque, and 
horsepower which I want to challenge as being 99.44% baloney.  Actually, I 
think we've about buried the "Hot Tiger" topic and it's time to look for 
another windmill to tilt.

A little background on the rod length issue can be found in the Wilson, 
Sadler, and Miches book "Kinematics & Dynamics of Machinery", especially 
section 3.7.1 starting on page 151 which deals with the "In-Line Slider 
Crank Mechanism" which is what the piston/ror/crankshaft is.  One thing I 
found interesting that I hadn't realized is that the motion of the piston is 
not sinusoidal.  It's actually the sum of two sine waves, the primary one 
being the frequency of crank rotation and a second being twice this 
frequency (result of side-to-side motion of crank).  The result of this is 
that the piston spends less time near the top of its motion and 
consequently, the acceleration of the piston is greater on either side of 
top dead center than around the bottom of the stroke.  This is all very 
interesting, but what are the practical consequences?  The aforementioned 
section graphs piston acceleration for various ratios of rod length to 
stroke.  Piston acceleration decreases as rod to stoke ratio increases.  
This means, since F=ma, that the forces acting on the rod also decrease with 
increasing length.  This is far from a complete analysis of the forces 
acting on the rod, but at least this is a start.  As a practical matter, 
longer rods weigh more, cost more, the engine block has to be taller, etc., 
etc.  I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but most production engines have 
rod/stroke ratios around 1.7:1 or so.

Expanding on this line of thinking, I think a solid case can be made for 
longer rod length in terms of reducing stress and allowing higher rpm 
operation.  I presume this is why the BOSS 302 used the longer 289 rods, but 
maybe those Ford engineers had something else in mind.  Is there any 
corresponding case for improving horsepower or torque?  I remain unconvinced 
of the latter assertion,regardles of how often it is made.  Before resorting 
to more specious arguments, is there any verifiable dynamometer data to 
support this assertion.  I know there are some very impressive motors out 
there with extra long rods.  This doesn't necessarily prove that the extra 
rod length is any benefit in terms of performance; perhaps just helps keep 
it together at high rpms.

Just thought I'd toss these  thoughts out for a few of you engineering types 
to chew on.  Let me know what you think or what facts you may have to add to 
the picture.

Bob


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