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Re: VIN #, Brakes, Wheels etc.

To: TOM WITT <wittsend@jps.net>
Subject: Re: VIN #, Brakes, Wheels etc.
From: Steve Laifman <Laifman@Flash.Net>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:25:57 +0000
TOM WITT wrote:

> 1. I recently acquired a 65 Mk1 Tiger. I found a can  of Dot 3 brake fluid
> in the car. I suspect that someone used this. Can a Tiger use Dot 3 brake
> fluid? If not what an I do to fix this?

Your going to have to bleed the system and replace with Girling LMA.  A complete
flush may remove all the old stuff, but won't repair any swelled seals.

> 2. Has anyone come up with an economical replacement for the Sunbeam servo
> booster. I installed disc brakes on a 63 Rambler and used a dual master
> cylinder with out a booster. (from a Pacer- yikes)

There is a Lockheed unit available in 5" and 7" diameters that will replace the
Girling unit.  They are about as expensive as a good rebuild, and mount
differently.  I've seen many different adaptations to mount it, but you do NOT
need the "mounting kit".  The neatest solution was one that used the two studs 
on
the back of the servo to mount it directly to the firewall, above the starter
relay.  Two holes were drilled through the firewall, and the studs stuck through
and the nuts attached from inside the car.  New hydraulic tubing, with 'bubble
flares" will, of course, be required between the new installation and the master
cylinder and the distribution block, unless you are lucky.

Warning, there are many versions of this unit available, with boost ratios 
varying
from 2:1 to 3:1.  Sunbeam Specialties carries a unit with about 2.4:1 in the 5"
size that many use.  The 7" Girling was 3:1.  Don't know if the firewall mounted
one was a 5" or a 7", so you'll have to measure available room.  I think  Theo
Smit has a lot of good pictures on his web site,
<http://members.home.net/tsmit/alternator.html>.

> 3.  I California what are Tigers registered under, the B947----- # or the
> JAL #?

B947..., although I have seen them registered as 67B947... to identify the year.
Mine was, but I had it changed by the DMV as it was NOT the same as the official
VIN plate.

> 4. The car is reported to have a HI-PO 289. I know about the distributor and
> the balancer, but is there a number on the block (where and what should it
> be)?

There is a number on the head, but you will probably have to remove the valve
covers to see it.  It should read:

C3OE (1963 vintage with 49.2 cc heads and 1.67/1.45 valves), but other 
non-HiPo's
of this year were marked C3OE-E, C3OE-F)
1964-1967 Vintages, with 54.5 cc heads and 1.78/1.45 valves:
C4OE-B
C5OE-A
C5AE-E

There is a casting number on the block, but you'll have to remove the starter to
see it. It should read:

63-64 vintage: C3OE-B, C4OE-B 5 bolt bell housing (rare)
65-68 vintage: C5AE-E 6 bolt bell housing.

Both have thicker than standard main-bearing caps, and orange paint color code 
on
rear of block.
The harmonic balancer is thicker, and there is a thinner timing chain under the
front cover, with an additional counterweight ,taking up the extra room, on the
crank.  This is to account for the extra heavy duty rod's extra weight, and is
hard on chains.  The crank has a polished area on a throw, with a small
indentation for the Brinnel Hardness Test they make to select 'Higher 
Nodularity"
cranks from the standard production run. I believe it has some orange paint on 
it
as well. The HP289 rod (C3OZ-6200-C) uses 3/8-in. bolts, instead of the standard
5/16-in. and the rods are broached for the clearance.  This rod is heavier than
stock, hence the need for the extra counterweight.  Replacement rods are from 
the
Boss 302 (C9ZZ-6200-B) with spot faced sets for the larger bolt.  These parts 
are
all hard to come by and expensive.  After-market replacements, of more modern
design, are probably better, if not original.

> 5 My car has the same rims as one of those dark blue Harrington Tigers,
> Calif. license # "HARNGTN". Are they rare and what are they  called.

"One" of those dark blue Harrington Tigers?  There is only one, B9472164 owned 
by
Bill Van Velkinburg in California. Those are nice looking wheels, and since
Harringtons are usually built-to-order they may have been 'stock' for that car. 
 I
think I've seen them on other vehicles, but don't know their origin.


Steve




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