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Re: [Tigers] Tiger VIN Transfer

To: <CoolVT@aol.com>, <hokey@oasisol.com>, <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger VIN Transfer
From: "Would U. Believe" <mcdangerous@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:17:24 -0400
I asked him the same question...no answer.


On 8/6/10 9:12 PM, "CoolVT@aol.com" <CoolVT@aol.com> wrote:

> Wonder what he's going to say if the car is sold and confiscated by some
DMV
> for the swapped VIN?
>
> In a message dated 8/6/2010 8:52:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> mcdangerous@verizon.net writes:
>> It seems  clear that he does, or should.  He's looking for $30k plus for
the
>> car.  Here's what he told me:
>>
>> "We sold a B3realB2 Tiger about  60 days ago for north of $60kE while that
>> market might have eroded some, not  to the point where a car that is a
real
>> one should go for half that.   If that is where you thought process is as
it
>> relates to pricing on this  particular car, no further conversation is
>> necessary.
>>
>> We are well  aware of the fact that this car has in its past been
represented
>> as a  B3realB2 Tiger, hence our being ultra-clear (or so we thought, if
there
>> is  still a question in your mind) with calling it for what it  is---a
>> conversion.  It has been meticulously put together and is an  excellent
>> value."
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/6/10 8:09 PM, "CoolVT@aol.com"  <CoolVT@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder if the selling dealer knows  the vin has been  switched. He seems
to
>>> be covering his butt by  saying it's an Alpine.  Would  he be foolish
enough
>>> to show  the vin if he knew it has been  swapped?
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/6/2010 7:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>>> hokey@oasisol.com writes:
>>>
>>> It seems  the  nice green Alpine has been quite a subject of discussion.
>>> Lots
>>>  of  views/opinions here.  But in reality, I think the main issue
concerned
>>> here
>>> is the fact a VIN plate was altered/changed and  is on another  vehicle.
>>> When
>>> you do something like this,  it's a no-no.   Utilizing VIN plates that
are
>>> stashed in  desk drawers and utilized at their  discretion is not a smart
>>>  practice.  Bottom line - it shouldn't matter  whether it was done on  a
>>> Tiger,
>>> Alpine, Pinto, Honda or any other  car.  I  personally think a highly
>>> modified
>>> Alpine is a great way to  go  if you really want to drive and enjoy the
car.
>>>   My
>>> '67 Alpine has the  correct numbers and is titled as such  because that's
>>> the
>>> right thing to  do.  I can cut, modify,  rearrange components and do
>>> creative
>>> things  involving the  installation of today's tech in the old sheetmetal
>>> and
>>> end up   with a very custom sportscar that can be enjoyed without fear of
>>>  losing
>>> a  Tiger shell at the intersection due to some kid texting  on her phone.
>>> I'm
>>> curious at the price the car sells for on  Ebay, mainly because it's a
>>> nice,
>>> clean sportscar that someone  put a lot of time and money into  creating.
>>> But
>>> the VIN  has been knowingly altered on the car,  irregardless of what car
>>>  it's
>>> from.  That's a red flag to me, and  should be to  others as well that
have
>>> an
>>> interest in buying the  car.   Imagine the possibility of the car getting
>>>  confiscated due to unlawful  activity?  There's a possibility that  none
of
>>> us
>>> will see the final  selling numbers due to the  listing being pulled if
it
>>> becomes apparent that  there may be a  lawful issue.  Someone said it
here
>>> earlier - the  original  Alpine numbers should have been retained and
there
>>> wouldn't be  any  mistake as to what the car really is - an Alpine with a
>>>  motor
>>> transplant.  Just my  .02.
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