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The passenger side out photo tells the story, yes it's bent. Your
body/frame guy should be able to get it back where it needs to be, after
pulling he may open the frame rail to make some applied hammerology
adjustments then stich it closed.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:
> Not to start a =E2=80=9CTiger Sledgehammer Story 2.0=E2=80=9D but is it p=
ossible someone
> went bashing about to make headers fit? From what I saw in the pictures
> there is no obvious point in the underside of the fenders to indicate the
> front clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten the frame/inner fenders
> that damaged likely would have required replacing the external sheet
> metal. My car did not show that type of frame/inner fender damage and ye=
t
> the front clip =E2=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D at the peak of the wheel opening f=
rom some form of
> (prior) accident requiring replacement. Just throwing a possibility out
> there in the hope that regardless of how it looks, the actual alignment m=
ay
> not be so bad. Measuring between common location mounting points
> diagonally should give you an idea. That said, how accurately were these
> cars built back then???
>
> *From:* daniel doornbos via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:27 AM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing
>
>
> All, I've taken some better pictures (still not great but hope they will
> do) and put it together in a PPT then to PDF format. If anyone with
> detailed experience would care to review and provide feedback on what I
> suspect is damage vs. what might actually be stock factory construction i=
t
> would be appreciated. Also note in last e-mail I called out the drivers
> side but I mixed with the car sitting on it's side. The suspect damage i=
s
> on the passenger side (or top of the car with it on it's side).
>
>
>
> I'm trying to get a better opinion because;
>
> - I don't actually know what this should look like
> - Is NOTHING wrong? The crossmember did drop right out of the car
> without any issues.
> - The passenger wheel does look OK centered in the fender (but
> I've never seen the car at proper ride height with a drive train in
> it.
> - Should passenger/drive be symmetrical?
> - Do I have it wrong and what I think is a problem in the passenger
> but could the drivers side be wrong?
>
> Also on the last page is a picture of the lower radiator surround. At th=
e
> passenger side it's only an 1" high and drivers side its almost 3"
> (estimates). Is this stock? I don't see an obvious repair or bend here
> but seems very strange that it wouldn't be same height all the way across=
.
>
>
>
> thanks again
>
> dan
>
>
>
> PS. Hopeing the Autox mail manger correctly strips off the attachment an=
d
> provides a link to it. Please let me know if it doesn't and I'll find a
> public sharing source.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The passenger side out photo tells the story, yes it's=
bent. Your body/frame guy should be able to get it back where it needs to =
be, after pulling he may open the frame rail to make some applied hammerolo=
gy adjustments then stich it closed.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Tom Witt via Tige=
rs <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12=
pt">
<div>Not to start a =E2=80=9CTiger Sledgehammer Story 2.0=E2=80=9D but is i=
t possible someone=20
went bashing about to make headers fit?=C2=A0 From what I saw in the pictur=
es=20
there is no obvious point in the underside of the fenders to indicate the f=
ront=20
clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten the frame/inner fenders that dam=
aged=20
likely would have required replacing the external sheet metal.=C2=A0 My car=
did=20
not show that type of frame/inner fender damage and yet the front clip =E2=
=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D=20
at the peak of the wheel opening from some form of (prior) accident requiri=
ng=20
replacement. Just throwing a possibility out there in the hope that regardl=
ess=20
of how it looks, the actual alignment may not be so bad.=C2=A0 Measuring be=
tween=20
common location mounting points diagonally should give you an idea. That sa=
id,=20
how accurately were these cars built back then???</div><span>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:sm=
all;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inlin=
e">
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:no=
rmal">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">daniel doornbos via Tigers</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:27 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your=20
viewing</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
</span><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-=
size:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;displa=
y:inline">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<p>All,=C2=A0 I've taken some better pictures (still not great but hope=
they=20
will do) and put it together in a PPT then to PDF format.=C2=A0 If anyone w=
ith=20
detailed experience would care to review and provide feedback on what I sus=
pect=20
is damage vs. what might actually be stock factory construction it would be=
=20
appreciated.=C2=A0 Also note in last e-mail I called out the drivers side b=
ut I=20
mixed with the car sitting on it's side.=C2=A0 The suspect damage is on=
the=20
passenger side (or top of the car with it on it's side).</p><div><div c=
lass=3D"h5">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>I'm trying to get a better opinion because;</p>
<ul>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I don't actually know what this sh=
ould look=20
like</span><br>
<ul>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">=C2=A0 </span>Is NOTHING wrong?=C2=
=A0 The=20
crossmember did drop right out of the car without any issues.=20
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">=C2=A0 The passenger wheel does look=
OK=20
centered in the fender (but I've never seen the car at proper ride =
height=20
with a drive train</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> in=20
it.</span></li></li></ul>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Should passenger/drive be symmetrical?=
=C2=A0=20
</span><br>
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Do I have it wrong and what I think is=
a=20
problem in the passenger but could the drivers side be=20
wrong?</span><br></li></li></li></ul>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif,"Appl=
e Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",notocoloremoji,"Segoe U=
I Symbol","Android Emoji",emojisymbols;font-size:16px"></spa=
n></p>
<p>Also on the last page is a picture of the lower radiator surround.=C2=A0=
At=20
the passenger side it's only an 1" high and drivers side its almos=
t 3"=20
(estimates).=C2=A0 Is this stock?=C2=A0 I don't see an obvious repair o=
r bend=20
here but seems very strange that it wouldn't be same height all the way=
=20
across.=C2=A0 </p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>thanks again</p>
<p>dan</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>PS.=C2=A0 Hopeing the Autox mail manger correctly strips off the attachm=
ent=20
and provides a link to it.=C2=A0 Please let me know if it doesn't and I=
'll find=20
a public sharing source.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </p></div></div></div>
<p>
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