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Re: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing

To: "'Tom Witt'" <atwittsend@verizon.net>, "'daniel doornbos'" <dan_doornbos@hotmail.com>, <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:09:47 -0400
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Tom=20

You ask a great question; how accurately were these cars built back =
then???

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Today=E2=80=99s vehicles have a tolerance of + or- 3mm =3D + or =
=E2=80=93 1/8=E2=80=9D tolerance.

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Since many of the Sunbeam Tiger history books imply there was always =
careful inspection of all aspect of the Tiger build and since Rootes =
controlled the assembly of the body frame unit; I=E2=80=99m going to say =
the tolerance was probably similar.   Anything larger then that would =
leave you with a car that could be difficult to assemble or adjust to =
manufactures specifications.

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That=E2=80=99s how I see it.

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom =
Witt via Tigers
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 10:56 AM
To: daniel doornbos <dan_doornbos@hotmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing

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Not to start a =E2=80=9CTiger Sledgehammer Story 2.0=E2=80=9D but is it =
possible someone went bashing about to make headers fit?  From what I =
saw in the pictures there is no obvious point in the underside of the =
fenders to indicate the front clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten =
the frame/inner fenders that damaged likely would have required =
replacing the external sheet metal.  My car did not show that type of =
frame/inner fender damage and yet the front clip =E2=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D =
at the peak of the wheel opening from some form of (prior) accident =
requiring replacement. Just throwing a possibility out there in the hope =
that regardless of how it looks, the actual alignment may not be so bad. =
 Measuring between common location mounting points diagonally should =
give you an idea. That said, how accurately were these cars built back =
then???


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tom =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>You ask a =
great question; </span><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>how accurately =
were these cars built back then???</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Today=E2=80=99=
s vehicles have a tolerance of + or- 3mm =3D + or =E2=80=93 1/8=E2=80=9D =
tolerance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Since many =
of the Sunbeam Tiger history books imply there was always careful =
inspection of all aspect of the Tiger build and since Rootes controlled =
the assembly of the body frame unit; I=E2=80=99m going to say the =
tolerance was probably similar.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Anything larger then that =
would leave you with a car that could be difficult to assemble or adjust =
to manufactures specifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That=E2=80=99=
s how I see it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom =
Witt via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 02, 2016 10:56 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> daniel doornbos &lt;dan_doornbos@hotmail.com&gt;; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] More Frame =
questions - with PDF for your =
viewing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Not to start a =
=E2=80=9CTiger Sledgehammer Story 2.0=E2=80=9D but is it possible =
someone went bashing about to make headers fit?&nbsp; From what I saw in =
the pictures there is no obvious point in the underside of the fenders =
to indicate the front clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten the =
frame/inner fenders that damaged likely would have required replacing =
the external sheet metal.&nbsp; My car did not show that type of =
frame/inner fender damage and yet the front clip =E2=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D =
at the peak of the wheel opening from some form of (prior) accident =
requiring replacement. Just throwing a possibility out there in the hope =
that regardless of how it looks, the actual alignment may not be so =
bad.&nbsp; Measuring between common location mounting points diagonally =
should give you an idea. That said, how accurately were these cars built =
back then???<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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