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RE: over-steer, under-steer, neutral steer...thoughts,

To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: over-steer, under-steer, neutral steer...thoughts,
From: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:17:59 -0800 (PST)
Goodparts makes a great matched set of anti-roll bars.  The rear bar is
adjustable.  I believe the cost is $250 or so per bar, so $500 for the
set.  A bit pricey maybe, but they look great, very high quality...

Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6


--- Neil Beesley <Neil.Beesley@securesult.co.uk> wrote:
> From: "Neil Beesley" <Neil.Beesley@securesult.co.uk>
> To: "R. Ashford Little II" <ralittle2@mindspring.com>,
>    "6-Pack"
>   <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: over-steer, under-steer, neutral steer...thoughts,
>   theories,   comments
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:43:34 -0000
> 
> I'd say that's about right, in my experience, though obviously
> anti-roll
> bars are only one part of the overall picture: the transition from
> straight
> line suspension-attitude to the point where its fully loaded up (and
> back
> again). Weight distribution, spring & shock choice, wheel
> castor/camber and
> the type of rubber on its shoes at each end, obviously have a big
> effect
> too: increase the grip at the back or decrease it at the front, for
> any
> given road surface, and it'll understeer more, and vice-versa.
> 
> By the way, does anyone know if there's a (cheap) adjustable rear
> anti-roll
> bar bolt-on, for the TR6 ?
> 
> Neil Beesley
> '70 TR6
> '97 MX-5
> '86 BMW M5
> '95 XM
> No space
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of R. Ashford Little II
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 05:14
> > To: 6-Pack
> > Subject: over-steer, under-steer, neutral steer...thoughts,
> theories,
> > comments
> >
> >
> > Without reading the many emails that follow (I'm just catching up
> on
> > them), I would say this.  So here's my answer, initially the TR6
> will
> > under-steer, but that will change to over-steer.
> >
> > "I" am far from a suspension expert.  But, I would say that I would
> > stiffen up the front roll bar to assist in under-steer and add a
> rear
> > sway bar to help with over-steer.
> >
> > These bars must or should be from a matched family (planned out),
> for
> > them to work properly.  Well, that's about it as far as my
> knowledge
> > goes, since I need to take myself down to Road Atlanta for some
> lessons
> > anyway.
> >
> > So, those are my answers without cheating to see what others have
> said.
> > Unless I'm wrong, and then my second email will simply mean that I
> had a
> > bolt of lightening thought.
> >
> > R. Ashford Little II
> > www.geocities.com/ralittle2
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of Jim Swarthout
> > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:22 PM
> > To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: oversteer, understeer, neutral steer...thoughts,
> theories,
> > comments
> >
> > To the list,
> >
> > What happens to your TR-6 when you "put it" into a corner? What
> happens
> > at the threshold when the tires begin to slide? Does it over-steer,
> > under-steer, or is it neutral...how do "you" know how to set-up
> your
> > suspension?
> >
> > Jim Swarthout


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