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Re: Frame coating

To: Todd Bermudez <red_tr250@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Frame coating
From: Don Malling <dmallin@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:19:46 -0400
I did the same thing as Todd.

I had the frame sand blasted and then painted with POR-15 semigloss followed by 
POR-15 Chassis Coat 
Black. I also filled in the pits with plastic between the POR-15 and Chassis 
coat black. I used red 
scotch brite pads between coats and it all went well.

I've also used Eastwood's rust encapsulator and in my opinion it tries too 
fast. You don't have time 
to brush it out.

I've used Magnet's products, and they seem OK. The semigloss has a better 
finish to it than the 
POR-15, but it's not as good as POR-15's Chassis Coat Black. It also seems 
sensitive to what the 
base is. They recommend priming first with their silver rust encapsulator. The 
gloss can be very 
uneven with Magnet's semi gloss.

In my opinion, rust encapsulation is the most important thing. Several coats of 
POR-15 Chassis Coat 
Black on top of their rust encapsulator looks a lot like powder coat to me. My 
son was visiting and 
picked up some suspension parts I was doing with Chassis Coat Black and said 
"Is this some special 
kind of paint?" I guess it is.

I keep asking if powder coat is a rust encapsulator. No one replies. If it is, 
it might be a better 
choice. Rust encapsulation is important even with sand blasting. When I did my 
brake calipers, I 
could not get all the rust out of the pits with bead blasting. I could see the 
pits get darker with 
rust in hours after bead blasting. I waited a day, and they were so rusty I had 
to reblast them. I 
then painted them with POR-15 Gray within the hour.

BTW, POR-15 claims to be good for 600 degrees, so that's a plus in some cases. 
I think Magnet is 
300. Not sure about Eastwood. I won't buy Eastwood again. Dies too fast. I 
guess I already said that 
:-)

Don Malling


Todd Bermudez wrote:
> Ronald,
> 
> If you haven't already, plan on checking all the known
> weak points on the frame or the points that typically
> crack or the welds don't hold.  Like the steering rack
> mounts, the diff mounts...if it's an early frame...get
> the reinforcement kit.
> 
> I did POR-15 & coated the heck out of my frame.  Then
> I scuffed it & painted it with the POR Chassis
> black...man you can hit it with a hammer...no
> chips...nothin'...looks great.  Seems a shame to put a
> body on it:-))
> 
> My 2 cents,
> 
> Todd Bermudez
> CD198L(frame is done)
> CF25768UO
> 
> --- Ronald Dowty <rdowty@dowtyenterprises.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm about done with my frame and will need to coat
>>it with something.
>>I've got a pressurized blaster that will do a good
>>job of removing all
>>the old paint and getting it prepped if I paint it.
>>If I powder coat it
>>all I have to do is write a check but it'll cost
>>more. I'm leaning
>>towards painting it. It was painted with Eastwood
>>Chassis Black over
>>their rust preventative but I didn't like it because
>>you could not
>>recoat it without the paint lifting. They've got a
>>new formula that
>>doesn't have this problem. Also I used aerosol cans
>>last time and I
>>think I'll use foam brushes and rollers if I paint
>>it myself. 
>>
>>Questions:
>>
>>Should I paint it for ($100) or powder coat it
>>(single coat probably
>>$300)?
>>
>>If I paint it myself should I use normal chassis
>>black paint, POR-15 or
>>the new stuff from Eastwood? If so should I use
>>something else for
>>primer?




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