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Re: [6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250

To: "DJFidler@rogers.com" <DJFidler@rogers.com>, 'Larry Young' <cartravel@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250
From: Sally or Dick Taylor <taylorturbo6@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:51:37 -0800 (PST)
Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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References: <1356563886.70654.YahooMailNeo@web163501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <56C5FB52-8598-4594-B6B2-49056894BA1C@lbcs.ca> <010201cdef6c$fc1937f0$f44ba7d0$@com> <B447AC95-4386-4582-8705-3D92A6D6D0DE@lbcs.ca> <CAO2WPFZZDHX_vfiYcsQLESf_17qNGz1cuSqQQrUPV49fxAWtQQ@mail.gmail.com> <6A98954B-6C40-4EC5-8C5C-EC0C10156D66@rogers.com> <50F039EE.9060401@pobox.com> <677B3705-0CA1-4A19-8677-87D74DB0AF1A@rogers.com> <50F03F83.8020301@pobox.com> <027b01cdf039$827525d0$875f7170$@com>
Fid --- High octane fuel was available here in the States during all of the
'60s when the TR5s were new. I remember seeing 100+ octane on some of our
pumps and muscle cars lined up to get it. I'm less certain as to why the U.S.
didn't allow their sales here. It would seem like it would be an emissions
thingy, as the US didn't care about whether these cars would run on a lesser
grade of octane. We know the cam used in the 5 to be "dirtier" than the
carbureted engine. Another drawback to US sales could've been the higher cost
of the P.I. system, and the training necessary to service them. Oh, well...
Dick
'73 
Los Angeles area



>________________________________
> From: David
Fidler <DJFidler@rogers.com>
>To: 'Larry Young' <cartravel@pobox.com> 
>Cc:
6pack@autox.team.net 
>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:23 PM
>Subject: Re:
[6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250
> 
>Are you sure about that Larry? I've never
actually seen the test results,
>have you? 
>
>My guess is that the problem
was more to do with the lower octane (RON)
>rating of US fuel. The UK PI TR5s
(and TR6s) were designed to run on 4 star
>leaded fuel (97 octane), if they
didn't meet the US regs, it's most likely
>the inferior fuel quality/lower
octane was the cause. Europe has as strict,
>if not more stringent, emissions
regs than the US and the PI TR5s and 6s
>passed those. Injected cars typically
have better emissions than carbs,
>although the Lucas system was totally
mechanical and therefore didn't have
>any of the modern electronic emissions
control systems.
>
>Just sayin'
>
>Fid.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
Larry Young [mailto:cartravel@pobox.com] 
>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013
11:36 AM
>To: David Fidler
>Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [6pack]
Canada - TR5 or TR250
>
>The TR5 did not meet US Emission standards and could
not legally be 
>imported into the US.
>
>On 1/11/2013 10:27 AM, David Fidler
wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> I don't think the dealer cared about that. The TR5s
were able to exceed US
>and Canadian emissions standards anyway. The real
reason (so I'm told) is
>they were dumbed down to Stroms because the US
dealers created hell about
>having to maintain the Lucas injection system and
the boffins at Triumph
>acquiesced.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
Sent from my iPad
>
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