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Re: [6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250

To: Ashford Little <70tr6@comcast.net> with any abuse report acl_c_relayhosts_text_entry: tr6@lbcs.ca|lbcs.ca
Subject: Re: [6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250
From: Dave More <tr6@lbcs.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:52:41 -0700
Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
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References: <1356563886.70654.YahooMailNeo@web163501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <56C5FB52-8598-4594-B6B2-49056894BA1C@lbcs.ca> <010201cdef6c$fc1937f0$f44ba7d0$@com> <B447AC95-4386-4582-8705-3D92A6D6D0DE@lbcs.ca> <CAO2WPFZZDHX_vfiYcsQLESf_17qNGz1cuSqQQrUPV49fxAWtQQ@mail.gmail.com> <6A98954B-6C40-4EC5-8C5C-EC0C10156D66@rogers.com> <50F039EE.9060401@pobox.com> <677B3705-0CA1-4A19-8677-87D74DB0AF1A@rogers.com> <50F03F83.8020301@pobox.com> <027b01cdf039$827525d0$875f7170$@com> <1A166899-5F76-42B0-9368-187751DF3A9E@comcast.net>
And to add to the tales of complexity and cost apparently the PI cars also
didn't take kindly to the types of elevation changes we have in North America,
which tends to be a non-issue with modern  EFI systems. Although I did own a
'77 Rabbit and a '76 Saab 99, both with Bosch K-Jetronic (mechanical)
injection and altitude didn't seem to bother those

Cheers,
Dave


On 2013-01-11, at 1:31 PM, Ashford Little <70tr6@comcast.net> wrote:

> I heard that the whole emissions argument was "the story" but that the real
> reason was cost.  The PI system costs more and they didn't think us Yanks
> would pay for the added cost as PI wasn't common at the time.  I think Mike
> Cook might have said this.  Then again, I might be wrong.
>
> Ashford Little
> ralittle2@mac.com
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 3:23 PM, David Fidler <DJFidler@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure about that Larry? I've never actually seen the test results,
>> have you?
>>
>> My guess is that the problem was more to do with the lower octane (RON)
>> rating of US fuel. The UK PI TR5s (and TR6s) were designed to run on 4
star
>> leaded fuel (97 octane), if they didn't meet the US regs, it's most likely
>> the inferior fuel quality/lower octane was the cause. Europe has as
strict,
>> if not more stringent, emissions regs than the US and the PI TR5s and 6s
>> passed those. Injected cars typically have better emissions than carbs,
>> although the Lucas system was totally mechanical and therefore didn't have
>> any of the modern electronic emissions control systems.
>>
>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Fid.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Young [mailto:cartravel@pobox.com]
>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>> To: David Fidler
>> Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [6pack] Canada - TR5 or TR250
>>
>> The TR5 did not meet US Emission standards and could not legally be
>> imported into the US.
>>
>> On 1/11/2013 10:27 AM, David Fidler wrote:
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> I don't think the dealer cared about that. The TR5s were able to exceed
US
>> and Canadian emissions standards anyway. The real reason (so I'm told) is
>> they were dumbed down to Stroms because the US dealers created hell about
>> having to maintain the Lucas injection system and the boffins at Triumph
>> acquiesced.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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