This reply is a little late, but I thought I'd send it anyway. I've been in
hospital for a while, but I'm out now and back in near roadworthy condition
again. It was nice to get back online and find that I had over 150 messages to
read from you guys.
So, in reply to a few past comments -
1/ I am not related to the Crocodile hunter guy on TV, but he does live just a
few miles down the road from me. (Yes, he is completely mad. And he owns a
Leyland)
2/ Yes, the engine of my car is under the "bonnet", not the "hood". Isn't a
"hood" an undesirable person that prowls the streets of your cities after dark?
3/ You better not be picking on my Cedric! You must be jealous, you have no
doubt heard stories about the awesome performance and handling characteristics
of the legendery Cedric. This is a car that came second in it's class in the
1963 Japanese grand prix, beaten only by a Toyota Crown! (the
Cedric had 4 "Oh S#@!" handles and needs every one of them.)
4/With regards to your comment "obviously he needs professional help!", my wife
would like to point out that anyone that owns more than 10 old Datsuns is
actually beyond Professional help.
5/ I am disgusted that you would use the "L" word (Leyland) on this mailing
list. There may be impressionable young children reading this list that are now
deeply emotionally scarred after reading such offensive language.
6/ I hope everyone is sending money to the "Save Steve" fund so he can come to
Australia and uphold the honour of the American High Screen Owners. I pledge 2c
to Steve's fund, I'd love to see him come down here. We'll see how long his
plastic dash lasts in an Australian summer. :-)
Speaking of ugly dashes, a few years ago I saw a 65/66 SP311 that was fitted
with a 240Z dash. Now that looked really stupid.
Alan Bent (still far from serious)
1966 Fairlady SP311 - "An automotive work of art"
1965 Silvia CSP311 - "Too good for Americans"
1966 Fairlady SP311 - "Has shiny chrome headlight surrounds, not daggy dull
ones like high screen ones"
1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - "50% more seating than a high screen car"
1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - "Proudly wearing it's Nippondenso file draw
handle"
1964 Cedric Wagon WP31 - "Power to weight ratio of 62.7hp/1000kg, better than a
Hummer"
1963 Bluebird P312 - "60hp of tarmac tearing power"
1963 Bluebird P312
1963 Cedric P31
1964 Cedric Wagon
1969 Super Six G130
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3823/index.html
Jim Tyler wrote:
> These are obviously the rantings of one who has taken leave of his senses.
>Just look at that
> list of cars--obviously he needs professional help!
>
> So blaspemous are some of these remarks that I suggest we may have a spy from
>the Leyland
> list amongst us. You sir, when you check the oil in your Datsun (if you
>really have one) do
> you lift the Hood or the Bonnet?
>
> 1)Elephant ears??? What did you want smaller flares that a 64? I don't think
>that could be done with 60's automotive technology. Remember they hadn't
>invented micro machining then!
>
> 2)Surely you can't really despise a roadster with a padded roll bar??? If
>so, you had better trade in that
> firebreathing 1500 on something with a J12. That 1500 is obviously making
>more power than you can deal with....
>
> 3) From these comments I would have to bet Ralph Nader was also an incognito
>Aussie. You aren't related to that Crocodile Hunter guy on TV are you? (or
>should I call it a Tele?) Serious Looney tunes.
>
> And You Sir, when you refer to Mr. Shelby, please use Reverend, Sir, or
>His Lordship Mr. Shelby.
>
> "A LOW SCREEN OR NO SCREEN" indeed. Isn't this the same thing?
>
> I would suggest Mr. Bent, if that is your real name, that you say a few
>prayers of forgiveness
> to the Car Guys before you nod off tonight. Good Aye...
>
> Jim (tongue way in cheek) Tyler
>
> 70 1600
> 69 2L
> 68 2L x 2
> 67.5 1600
> 66 1600
> 65 1500 3 seat (the ugly one) I think I'll part it out just to watch it
>die! Just Kidding.
> 91 300ZX A great car even if it doesn't have roadster personality
> 98 Chevrolet (Hallowed be thy name) Tahoe Mommy Mobile
>
> Obviously also in need of professional help!
>
> ----------
> From: Alan Bent[SMTP:ajb@squirrel.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:23 AM
> To: Jim Tyler
> Cc: a roadster list
> Subject: Re: butt-ugly dashes-Fan the Flames
>
> Over here when the common people (high screen owners) aren't around we refer
>to the low screen cars as the "Classic models" and to the high screen cars as
>the "Plastic models".
> A few other points about Jim's message
> 1/ Those "fairly pretty fender curves" have wheel arch flares that look like
>a pair of elephant ears.
> 2/ A "Padded roll bar" or any roll bar, doesn't look great on anything. A
>roll bar looks like what it is, a bunch of pipes welded together. If you are
>that interested in safety, and black plastic dashes, you might find something
>more your style on this site - www.volvo.com
> 3/ Roadsters look "goofy" if you take the side strips off.
> 4/ "It sceams 'Catch me if you can...' ". No, it screams "Ralph Nader and
>Carroll Shelby attacked my car".
> One car magazine over here summed up the looks of the high screen car
>perfectly, " A sports car for giraffes".
> "A LOW SCREEN OR NO SCREEN"
> Alan Bent (also all in fun - every Roadster is a highly desirable car)
> 1966 Fairlady SP311 - 1965 Silvia CSP311
> 1966 Fairlady SP311 - 1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310
> 1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - 1964 Cedric Wagon WP31
> 1963 Bluebird P312 - 1963 Bluebird P312
> 1963 Cedric P31 - 1964 Cedric Wagon 1964
> 1969 Super Six G130
> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3823/index.html
>
> Jim Tyler wrote:
>
> > > I'll probably get flamed to hell for this but you guys with the later
>model
> > > roadsters have the butt ugliest looking consoles and dashboards.
> >
> > OK that will be quite enough late model dash flames...A perfect or "Just
>Dashes" redo late style
> > dash with a pretty set of gauges and all new knobs is a pretty thing to
>behold. Deep sunken gauges,
> > curvacious, not bad for a cheap Japanese sports car.
> >
> > Personally I think the 67.5 year dash is THE UGLY one. Dull black
>instrument rims,
> > the UGLY 2 instrument clusters, UGLY satined-out chrome, UGLY,DULL, UGLY
> >
> > The 66 dash is the pretty one, pretty gauges, pretty trim, classy styling.
> >
> > OH yes and the 1500 dashes, they get a close UGLY 2nd prize. Dorky half
>way funktional
> > (no not a typo) gauges, a giant "Oh Sh%$" handle to the right (Must have
>had a clearance
> > on Nippondenso file drawer handles), an afterthought Windshield washer pump
>stuck on the
> > bottom with an L bracket, A map light that look like it came from a marine
>application, and best
> > of all, best of all, an ASH TRAY LARGE ENOUGH TO SERVICE A WAFFLE HOUSE.
>Guy's that ain't beauty....thats butt UGLY.
> >
> > BTW for any one who hasn't driven one, that OH Sh&* handle was because of
>the drum brakes!!!
> >
> > They went to the 66 dash because some smart guy fired the designer that
>came up with all that
> > UGLY crap!
> >
> > Stand up for yourselves late model owners!
> >
> > And, while we are at it,
> >
> > I would have to point out that the late models are the ones that that look
>great tricked out. Lowered, 15" Panasports or American Libre's, Padded roll
>bar, take off the goofy side trim and those are fairly pretty fender curves.
>That's a Datsun Roadster. It sceams "Catch me if you can..."
> >
> > Do all that to a 65 and it will just look silly with those anemic little
>fender flares.
> >
> > I have a right to criticize. I have a least one of each here to torment me!
> >
> > Jim Tyler (All in good fun)
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