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RE: Track pick-up

To: "'Rocky Entriken '" <>,
Subject: RE: Track pick-up
From: Bill Babcock <>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:50:05 -0700
 A lot of vintage groups will black flag you for warming your tires up by
wagging. Everyone does it in SCCA and ICSSC--an absolute necessity IMHO for
slicks and a lightweight car. I also warm up the brakes. In vintage driving
I hold back at the entrance to each corner and then gun through it,
inentionally plowing the front end. Easy to control, and no one in the
corners seems to care about it. I've never been reprimanded for it. 

I'm not trying to scrape the goo off. I just want my tires warmed. there's a
huge difference between cold and warm. Peyote doesn't like cold tires. 

-----Original Message-----
To: .Triumph List
Sent: 4/19/2004 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Track pick-up

As others have said, the tires are working. Tires these days slough off
lot of rubber, which creates those off-line marbles. Most of what you
picked up is what was those marbles. Your hot tires will pick up
they roll over -- cigarette butts, gumwrappers, small animals. Try
your race sometime with an incident that leaves you in the grass and
look at all that vegetation growing off the donuts.

If you drive cool-off laps strictly on the racing line, you will have
Most of it is off-line.

Next session, waggle the car back and forth for a lap and it will be
gone. We used to do that to warm up the tires (we still do, actually).
we do it to clean off the tires too.

And at the risk of sounding like I am trying to sell product -- some may
remember I peddle Formula V Traction Treatment -- I have found the FVTT
great help when you are home and your tires are cold and you really want
get the pickup off. Treat the tires and after it has soaked in an hour
so, most of the pickup comes off relatively easily with a gasket
scraper(emphasis on "relatively" -- on a scale of 1-10 it is a 4 instead
a 9). Caution, it is a really messy job because you are working with
fresh with FVTT and you'll get carbon black from the tires all over you,
wear something you don't care about and maybe rubber gloves. I've done
it a
time or two. Came to the conclusion it was wasted effort.

--Rocky Entriken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Price" <>
To: "Friends of Triumph" <>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Track pick-up

> Amici:
>    I am having a serious problem with track pick-up. When I come in
from a
> session I have a great deal of rubber bits sort of welded to the tire
> It is extremely difficult to remove, especially if I let the tires
> No, it is not reverted rubber from the tires themselves. Could this be
> tire-pressure or camber related problem? I am running Kuhmo 205-50
> 30psi in the front and 28psi in the back. I had the same problem with
> Yokahame A-008s, so I don't think it's the tires.
> John Price

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