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I had a bad one last weekend including an ambulance ride to the hospital =
to check me out. in alittle bit wet conditions my tr4 really stepped out =
on turn in to turn nine at seattle. very uncharicteristic of my car. =
natural reaction is to catcth the slide. when it did hook up it sent me =
strait into the wall at about 60 or 70 mph it was a big hit. all the =
safety gear did its job and yes i hade a hans on. after this our club is =
concidering making some device manditory. i dont even have a stiff neck. =
I am now a strong advicator. The car didnt fair so well both front frame =
rails bent all the way into the oil pan. you can just imagine the rest.
Jeff Quick =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill Babcock=20
To: BillDentin@aol.com=20
Cc: Friends of Triumph=20
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for FoT membership
Sorry to hear about the fatality. We really are playing a rough game =
here. We had two bad accidents at the SOVREN Fall Finale this weekend. =
FOTer Jeff Quick hit the wall straight on in his TR4. They took him off =
in the ambulance on a back board, but he's okay. The car is completely =
flat across the nose and about a foot shorter. Hard impact, straight in. =
Could have been a bad one, I'm glad he's OK. I'm pretty sure Jeff wears =
a HANS device. Another driver pretty much wrote off a very nice Alpha.=20
We get away with a lot because of all the retrofitted safely =
equipment, but I've met more than a few old time drivers who expressed =
amazement that we don't have more fatalities. they basically say "those =
cars were damned dangerous back when we built them, what do you think =
has changed". =20
What has changed is the safety gear, and I believe in keeping all of =
mine as up to date as possible. Fresh belts before the expiration date =
or when they show any damage or have been "exercised" as with a Corvette =
shoving one self around a bit, Hans device. Good helmet. great roll =
cage. Other than that, you pays your money and you takes your chances.=20
Pat's a great guy, it was a pleasure to meet him last year. Next year =
is Peyote's fiftieth birthday. Big doings planned. T shirts, peyote =
buttons, and a new motto: "Pissing off drivers with nicer cars for fifty =
years"
I agree, Diane has a fine rear end, in fact a stellar one. Peyote's, =
however, is a tad lumpy.=20
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:32 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 09/22/2008 11:37:23 AM Central Daylight Time, =
Billb@bnj.com writes:
I thought Tony was already a member or I would have nominated him =
long ago. Not only does he drive the wheels off the TR250K (and anything =
else he sits in, except his truck which he drives like a little old =
lady), but he also maintains it, and the Bill Hart Devin, AND John =
James's TR4, and he brought Peyote back to life this year, and will =
finish making it far too pretty over the winter. Yes, he's going to =
replace the "Aluminum foil sack of walnuts" rear end that I carefully =
fabricated on my $200 English Wheel. Some people have no respect for =
amateur bodywork. Like Diane for example, who is paying Tony to replace =
the rear end.=20
On the Peyote? Diane's rear end is fine.
I saw Pat Starr at ROAD AMERICA over the week end. He borrowed a =
trailer and hauled his Morgan (same car he's raced since the 1960s) down =
to ELVF. He is still a great driver (2:51.892), less than two seconds =
short of his best lap ever. At the cocktail party Saturday night (Peter =
Egan spoke) Pat was talking about the Peyote and describing clear =
plastic spoilers they used to run on the car in the rear. Interesting.
Bill
PS...Sad to say...there was another fatality in the second Race =
Group 2 practice session on Friday. Dr. Surjit Hermon lost control of =
his 1957 Eastgate (LOTUS XI continuation or replica) and hit a =
stationary Mini Cooper S parked off course near the apex to Turn 13. =
High speed (80 mph +/-) impact (sideways). Suspected broken neck. I =
had raced with this guy many times. He was competent, courteous, never =
aggressive. He apparently lost control, tried to correct, and went =
sliding sidways into the Mini. The VSCDA has been running vintage =
racing events for thirty years and never had a really serious accident, =
much less a fatality. Now two in a month. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a bad one last weekend including =
an ambulance=20
ride to the hospital to check me out. in alittle bit wet conditions my =
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really stepped out on turn in to turn nine at seattle. very =
uncharicteristic of=20
my car. natural reaction is to catcth the slide. when it did hook up it =
sent me=20
strait into the wall at about 60 or 70 mph it was a big hit. all the =
safety gear=20
did its job and yes i hade a hans on. after this our club is concidering =
making=20
some device manditory. i dont even have a stiff neck. I am now a strong=20
advicator. The car didnt fair so well both front frame rails bent all =
the way=20
into the oil pan. you can just imagine the rest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff Quick </FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DBillb@bnj.com href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>Bill =
Babcock</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DBillDentin@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:BillDentin@aol.com";>BillDentin@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 22, =
2008 6:30=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Nomination =
for FoT=20
membership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sorry to hear about the fatality. We really are playing =
a rough=20
game here. We had two bad accidents at the SOVREN Fall Finale=20
this weekend. FOTer Jeff Quick hit the wall straight on in his =
TR4. They=20
took him off in the ambulance on a back board, but he's okay. The car =
is=20
completely flat across the nose and about a foot shorter. Hard=20
impact, straight in. Could have been a bad one, I'm glad =
he's OK.=20
I'm pretty sure Jeff wears a HANS device. Another driver pretty much =
wrote off=20
a very nice Alpha.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We get away with a lot because of all the retrofitted =
safely=20
equipment, but I've met more than a few old time drivers who expressed =
amazement that we don't have more fatalities. they basically say =
"those cars=20
were damned dangerous back when we built them, what do you think has =
changed".=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>What has changed is the safety gear, and I believe in keeping all =
of mine=20
as up to date as possible. Fresh belts before the expiration date or =
when they=20
show any damage or have been "exercised" as with a Corvette shoving =
one self=20
around a bit, Hans device. Good helmet. great roll cage. Other than =
that, you=20
pays your money and you takes your chances. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Pat's a great guy, it was a pleasure to meet him last year. Next =
year is=20
Peyote's fiftieth birthday. Big doings planned. T shirts, peyote =
buttons, and=20
a new motto: "Pissing off drivers with nicer cars for fifty =
years"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I agree, Diane has a fine rear end, in fact a stellar one.=20
Peyote's, however, is a tad lumpy. </DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:32 AM, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:BillDentin@aol.com";>BillDentin@aol.com</A> =
wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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face=3D"Baskerville Old Face" color=3D#400040 size=3D3 =
family=3D"SERIF"=20
ptsize=3D"12">In a message dated 09/22/2008 11:37:23 AM Central =
Daylight Time,=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>Billb@bnj.com</A> =
writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT=20
lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D2=20
family=3D"SANSSERIF" ptsize=3D"10" back=3D"#ffffff"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff =
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
type=3D"CITE">I thought Tony was already a member or I would have =
nominated=20
him long ago. Not only does he drive the wheels off the TR250K =
(and=20
anything else he sits in, except his truck which he drives like a =
little=20
old lady), but he also maintains it, and the Bill Hart Devin, AND =
John=20
James's TR4, and he brought Peyote back to life this year, and =
will finish=20
making it far too pretty over the winter. Yes, he's going to =
replace the=20
"Aluminum foil sack of walnuts" rear end that I carefully =
fabricated on my=20
$200 English Wheel. Some people have no respect for amateur =
bodywork. Like=20
Diane for example, who is paying Tony to replace the rear end.=20
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
face=3D"Baskerville Old Face" color=3D#400040 size=3D3 =
family=3D"SERIF" ptsize=3D"12"=20
back=3D"#ffffff"><BR>On the Peyote? Diane's rear end is =
fine.<BR><BR>I=20
saw Pat Starr at ROAD AMERICA over the week end. He borrowed a =
trailer=20
and hauled his Morgan (same car he's raced since the 1960s) down to=20
ELVF. He is still a great driver (2:51.892), less than two =
seconds=20
short of his best lap ever. At the cocktail party Saturday =
night=20
(Peter Egan spoke) Pat was talking about the Peyote and describing =
clear=20
plastic spoilers they used to run on the car in the rear. =20
Interesting.<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR>PS...Sad to say...there was another =
fatality=20
in the second Race Group 2 practice session on Friday. Dr. =
Surjit=20
Hermon lost control of his 1957 Eastgate (LOTUS XI continuation or =
replica)=20
and hit a stationary Mini Cooper S parked off course near the apex =
to Turn=20
13. High speed (80 mph +/-) impact (sideways). Suspected =
broken=20
neck. I had raced with this guy many times. He was =
competent,=20
courteous, never aggressive. He apparently lost control, tried =
to=20
correct, and went sliding sidways into the Mini. The VSCDA has =
been=20
running vintage racing events for thirty years and never had a =
really=20
serious accident, much less a fatality. Now two in a=20
month. </FONT><BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Looking for =
simple=20
solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out =
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