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To: colordog.1@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake/clutch fluid res.
From: Bill Babcock <Billb@bnj.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:52:33 -0700
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If you are a good fabricator it's a relatively easy thing to build. =20
You can get an adjustable bias pivot from Tilton and do a nice job. =20
Tilton also has nice girling-pattern master cylinders with remote or =20
integrated reservoirs. If you build a bias-adjustable system I suggest =20=

you make both cylinders the same size so you can share a spare rebuild =20=

kit between them. Some master cylinders have residual pressure valves =20=

already installed. Make sure you take that out for the clutch or =20
you'll toast your thrust bearings. Don't ask how I know that.

Peyote's box is home-made and has worked well for eons. You can also =20
build one without the adjustable pivot and just make up a selection of =20=

bars with varied ratios for front to rear bias.

On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:41 AM, colordog.1@earthlink.net wrote:

> Moss sells the can for 80 bucks,  revington tr sells an alum can for =20=

> 84=A3. And a Stainless steel can for 152=A3.  I want to leak test mine =
=20
> before placing an order.  Since I have both the clutch and brake =20
> master cyls out, now would be a good time to switch to a dual mc =20
> setup for the brakes.  I've read all the posts about the dual mc =20
> setups.  Revington's ready-made setup is about 1500 bucks plus =20
> shipping.  What is the least expensive way to go that is still =20
> extremely safe?
> ------Original Message------
> From: Kramer, Robert
> Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sep 24, 2008 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake/clutch fluid res.
>
> These cans may be available new from the UK. When I bought my dual =20
> circuit brake setup it came with a brand new can. Seek and ye shall =20=

> find.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] =20=

> On Behalf Of Randall
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:20 AM
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake/clutch fluid res.
>
>
>
>> and find your leak, then solder it.
>
> That in itself is tricky with the original TR3 reservoir.  It's =20
> soldered
> together (with low temperature 'soft' solder) to begin with.  So =20
> bringing
> one spot to soldering temperature will soften the adjacent solder =20
> joint and
> allow it to pull apart, etc.
>
> I gave up and found another one that didn't leak.
>
> Randall
>
>
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If you are a good fabricator =
it's a relatively easy thing to build. You can get =
an&nbsp;adjustable&nbsp;bias pivot from Tilton and do a nice job. Tilton =
also has nice girling-pattern master cylinders with remote or =
integrated&nbsp;reservoirs. If you build a bias-adjustable system I =
suggest you make both cylinders the same size so you can share a spare =
rebuild kit between them. Some master cylinders have residual pressure =
valves already installed. Make sure you take that out for the clutch or =
you'll toast your thrust bearings. Don't ask how I know that. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peyote's box is home-made and has worked =
well for eons. You can also build one without the adjustable pivot and =
just make up a selection of bars with varied ratios for front to rear =
bias.&nbsp;</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:41 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:colordog.1@earthlink.net";>colordog.1@earthlink.net</a> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>Moss sells the can for 80 bucks, &nbsp;revington tr =
sells an alum can for 84=A3. And a Stainless steel can for 152=A3. =
&nbsp;I want to leak test mine before placing an order. &nbsp;Since I =
have both the clutch and brake master cyls out, now would be a good time =
to switch to a dual mc setup for the brakes. &nbsp;I've read all the =
posts about the dual mc setups. &nbsp;Revington's ready-made setup is =
about 1500 bucks plus shipping. &nbsp;What is the least expensive way to =
go that is still extremely safe?<br>------Original =
Message------<br>From: Kramer, Robert<br>Sender: <a =
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24, 2008 9:28 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake/clutch fluid =
res.<br><br>These cans may be available new from the UK. When I bought =
my dual circuit brake setup it came with a brand new can. Seek and ye =
shall find.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: =
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [<a =
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type=3D"cite">and find your leak, then solder =
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reservoir. &nbsp;It's soldered<br>together (with low temperature 'soft' =
solder) to begin with. &nbsp;So bringing<br>one spot to soldering =
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