Group: Perhaps I'm a stranger bird than I thought, but, I haven't heard anyone
showing a desire to see a totally unlimited or minimally regulated class of
racing like the old Formula Libre. A real "run what you brung" type racing.
Perhaps rule out telemetry and/or electronic driving aids so the driving
talent can be seen and appreciated. True, money will always be a factor, but a
great driver in an old design may still beat a bad driver in the most modern
set-up.
A great example of this would be the Formula Libre race at Lime Rock where
Roger Ward beat everything the factories, including Ferrari, Maserati, and
Jaguar had to offer with an Offy powered midget. Truly a function of the
car/driver combination. I have been trying to discern whether he ran it with a
multi-speed tranny or a simple in/out box which would really have showed his
skills.
This is the complete opposite of the (now defunct) IROC idea which has
everyone running similarly prepped cars, chosen in a draw, to find the best
driver.
Anyone's thoughts on this? Kas, since you were running at that time, what were
the opinions of the Formula back then. Am I just wishing for the good old
days?
-Ed-
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Kas Kastner <kaskas@cox.net> wrote:
From: Kas Kastner <kaskas@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>, "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
Cc: "'Friends of Triumph'" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 2:34 PM
Wind tunnels have an amazing cost. Some teams have two full size running 24
hours a day. Why? Wings and other little flipitts that reduce drag or
create downforce. This then is causing the worst situation which is the
passing from close quarters. Easy fix. Eliminate ALL wings. Wind tunnel
time would be reduced 80% and passing and we'd have sliding cars to
amusement of the fans. Brakes would be pressed to keep up with the top
speed as the cars would be vastly faster down the chutes.
The cars would also much cheaper to produce and the spares would not be
necessary for $25,000 plus nose cones. But then of course you would not have
the sign boards to display the sponsors name etc. But if they go away
anyway, why not take the silly stubs and leafs and wings with them. Reduce
the allowed telemetry and you save more engineer time and work force along
with countless cost hours manufacturing all this junk. I've got more, but I
see my soap box is splitting, so I will too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>
To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
Cc: "'Friends of Triumph'" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
> Driver's salary is an illusion--almost all of them pay at least part
> for their seat through personal sponsorship. Lewis Hamilton is an
> exception, but there aren't many others.
>
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Joe Curry wrote:
>
>> I doubt that adjusting driver salaries will do any good since some
>> drivers
>> actually pay the team for their seat.
>>
>> Joe C.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Andre Rousseau
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:47 AM
>> To: Terry Stetler
>> Cc: Bill Babcock; Friends of Triumph
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
>>
>> Love GtL and GTR2
>>
>> Was bombing around Mosport last night in a TR4!
>>
>> Did anyone suggest the drivers should makes less? Or all have a base
>> salary and performance bonus.
>>
>> A
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>> Andre Rousseau - andre@gt6.ca
>> 68 Triumph GT6 MK1 http://www.gt6.ca
>>
>
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