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Re: trunnion bush length

To: John Loftus <loftusdesign@cox.net>
Subject: Re: trunnion bush length
From: Dave & M <rusd@velocitus.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:47:19 -0600
Hi John,

You are correct. My original bushings and the new bushings from Peter at
Worldwide Auto Parts both measure .875" on the sleeve length. I can't
imagine how Moss got the length wrong, but it wouldn't be the first
time. Good info to store away.

Thanks for flagging it,

Dave Russell
BN2

John Loftus wrote:
 > Hi Dave,
 >
 > Thanks for the detailed reply.
 >
 > My problem with the new bushes is that the metal sleeve was longer
 > than what was in there before and consequently would bottom out well
 > before the fulcrum bolt could be fully tightened (the nut would not
 > go on deep enough to expose the hole for the cotter pin) nor the
 > cross bolt on the shock arms (there was still an air gap between the
 > shock arms)
 >
 > I did follow the manual instructions with the 2" spacer block and
 > I've done this assembly job before and everything went together
 > properly. With the new bushes the task was impossible until I
 > "corrected" the part length. I'm pretty sure the current Moss parts
 > are wrong.
 >
 > Cheers, John
 >
 > Dave & M wrote:
 >
 >> Hi John,
 >>
 >> The original bushings are intended to have the steel sleeves
 >> clamped solid before the rubber is clamped. The rubber bushing is a
 >> torsion spring, bonded to the sleeve & clamped into the arms,
 >> which is supposed to flex/twist as the suspension moves. There was
 >> not intended to be any rotating motion between the sleeve & the
 >> suspension arms or bolt. If there is any rotating motion, there is
 >> no way to lubricate the joint & premature wear will occur. If there
 >> is no grease fitting on a bushing it was never intended to rotate.
 >>
 >> The rubber torsion springs actually add a bit to the spring rates.
 >> This is why the shop manuals say to center the suspension travel
 >> before final bolt tightening.  (The part about placing a block of
 >> wood between the upper arms & the shock tower). Also applies to the
 >> lower inner front bushings & rear spring bushings. Centering
 >> prevents destructive over rotation/flex of the rubber.
 >>
 >> To repeat, the sleeve should come up tight before the rubber is
 >> clamped to any great extent.
 >>
 >> Dave Russell
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> John Loftus wrote:
 >>> When tying to install new trunnion bushes (rubber bushes with
 >>> steel sleeve positioned between the ends of the two shock arms) I
 >>> was running into great difficulty getting the shock arms to
 >>> bottom in the middle where the cross bolt fastens them together.
 >>> I compared the new bushes with the old and found the steel inner
 >>> sleeve to be appreciably longer on the new ones (approx. .95"
 >>> compared with .875" for the old). I ground the inner side of the
 >>> new ones down to the .875" length (with bench top belt sander)
 >>> and everything fit together properly. I plan to bring this to
 >>> Moss' attention but curious if others have run into this and to
 >>> alert others who may face the same problem.
 >>>
 >>> Cheers, John




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