Dallas -
The rule of thumb is as long as it was an original factory color, then you
can get a "Concourse Gold" level.
In fact, there isn't a concours committee in the world that I am aware of
that insists that you paint the car it's original factory color to get it's
highest rating. If that's the case most of these million dollar Duesenburgs
and Auburns would be painted dull dark colors. Most of the paint jobs would
have to be semi-gloss too (with lots of orange peel) since paints in those
days weren't nearly as glossy and smooth as they are now.
Cut the color changers some slack!!
Cheers,
Alan
'53 BN1 '64 BJ8
On 1/24/06, Dallas Congleton <dcong996@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> It is really surprising to me that a car can be judged "Concours Gold"
> without a Heritage Certificate and compliance with its original production
> details, including paint colors, compliance with production dates of
> details, etc.
>
> What then is concours?
>
> Dallas Congleton
> 1967 BJ8
> 1953 MGTD
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich C" <richchrysler@quickclic.net>
> > To: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity
> >
> >
> > I quite agree with you on that point Steve.
> > If I were team captain or chief judge with such a car being judged, I
> > would
> > have to go for the standard deduction as stated in the scoring sheets
> > and
> > guidelines. This would apply for an early Phase 2 with the larger single
> > lamps front and back, etc., etc. In other words, without getting into
> > checking actual serial numbers, the BJ8 that could be visually
> determined
> > at
> > a casual glance as not being a late enough car to have MGB should have a
> > standard paint deduction. Ironically the MGB car that all the BJ fuss is
> > about is exactly such a car!
> > Hang on a minute while I slip on my flame suit!<grin>
> > Rich Chrysler
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> > > > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The car that sold for the big money at Barrett-Jackson was
> > HBJ8L/34507,
> > > > > which was manufactured 31 Dec - 3 Jan 66. The first Metallic
> Golden
> > > Beige
> > > > > car from the factory was HBJ8/40190 (right-hand drive), built 12 -
> 16
> > > > > January 67. All other MGB cars were presumably built at a date
> later
> > > than
> > > > > January 1967.
> > > > >
> > > > > During a similar discussion we had on the list last year after the
> > $97K
> > > > > MGB
> > > > > BJ8 sold (HBJ8L/40165), I was told that the Concours rules do not
> > deduct
> > > > > points for any Phase 2 car simply because it's painted Metallic
> Golden
> > > > > Beige. Other later features on a car too early to have received
> them
> > > (by
> > > > > the parts manual) would result in a points deduction. It's just
> my
> > > > > personal
> > > > > opinion, but this seems a contradiction to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Byers
> > > > > HBJ8L/36666
> > > > > BJ8 Registry
> > > > > Havelock, NC USA
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