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Subject: FW: Ethanol and Healeys
From: "David Porter" <frogeye@swcp.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:43:29 -0600
-----Original Message-----
From: David Porter [mailto:frogeye@swcp.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:43 AM
To: 'scott willis'
Subject: RE: Ethanol and Healeys

Vote on the ABC link for Mr. Raymond's compensation. You WILL be very
surprised.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-healeys@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-healeys@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of scott willis
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:55 AM
To: GSFuqua1@aol.com; N5572B@aol.com; healey.nut@gmail.com;
gilrockwell@comcast.net
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ethanol and Healeys

I was watching Anderson Cooper 360 last night and they interviewed BP. They 
now want to be known as Beyond Petroleum. They invested $8 billion in 
alternative fuels and $15 billion in petroleum rescently. I had hoped that 
our government and the American auto giants would work together to come up 
with the next alternative fuel but now I see it will have to come from the 
energy companies. The problem is that they will walk slowly while they are 
making money at the pump. Exxon needs to make lots of money to be able give 
CEO Mr. Raymond a fair and nice $141k a day retirement. 
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989

We can solve many of the world's (current) problems if we can cut off our 
reliance on foriegn oil. We need to do this now.

Cheers,
Scott
Mashed 60 BN7
59 MGA
69 GT6
http://www.geocities.com/bgeuroclassics/BG_Euro.html





>From: GSFuqua1@aol.com
>Reply-To: GSFuqua1@aol.com
>To: N5572B@aol.com, healey.nut@gmail.com, gilrockwell@comcast.net
>CC: healeys@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Ethanol and Healeys
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:57:24 EDT
>
>David is correct.  I used to make MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether) and 
>have
>competed against Ethanol.  The Corn & Farm Lobbies are VERY powerful
>machines.  Especially when they have the "Green" Lobby support.  They won 
>which is one
>of the reasons MTBE is going away.  There is actually a better product than
>either Ethanol or MTBE.  It is ETBE but little was done to push for it as 
>it
>was a form of combined Ethanol and MTBE.  i.e. Neither group would be a 
>clear
>winner.
>
>For those of you who may care, Ethanol is made chiefly from corn.  However 
>it
>takes many times the amount of energy to make it versus what it does in the
>gasoline and for the atmosphere.  The big thing is that Corn is renewable.
>MTBE is made from a chemical process that uses Natural Gas, Oxygen to 
>create
>Methanol which is then combined with Isobutlyene. (a refined liquid 
>byproduct of
>Natural Gas).  Both are hard on Rubber and seals.  Ethanol is particularly 
>bad
>about water and particulate matter.  It will literally "Clean" your system.
>It will also burn a hotter so what your temp gauge.
>
>What makes me the most unhappy is that Ethanol is also highly subsidized by
>tax dollars.  Why?  Because it is not competitive to manufacture.  Remember

>the
>earlier statement about the amount of energy it takes to make it?
>
>I realize the last paragraph and perhaps the entire response could be
>considered "Political" and it is NOT my desire or intent to see this 
>debated on the
>list.  So please hold the flames.  I just thought there might be a few who
>would like to know the background.

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