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To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 01:03:33 +0000 (UTC)
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There is another known QA issue with the repops: the shaft breaks; greatly =
reducing the efficacy of the pump and not very nice to your radiator either=
.=20


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Michael,=20
Thank you appreciate your input and no don=E2=80=99t have the original unit=
.=20
Have now found the invoice and pump was bought in 2004 but car has done les=
s than 1200 miles since then ... grrr !=20
rg=20
From: Michael Salter=20
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:53 PM=20
To: Roger Grace=20
Cc: Healey List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pump=20
Hi Roger,=20
If the pump on your car is indeed a recent replacement it is very likely, b=
ased upon my experience with the currently available BJ8 pumps, that the be=
aring has failed.=20
Having disassembled a few of these repop pumps that have been sent to me as=
 "original cores" I can confirm that these are very poorly made and it is a=
mazing that they operate at all.=20
There is no facility for lubricating the bearing as it is a sealed unit.=20
If you have the original that was removed from your engine I would strongly=
 recommend having it rebuilt or rebuilding it yourself as they are of far s=
uperior design and when correctly rebuilt last for decades.=20
Rebuilding instructions are here and I can supply a kit containing the corr=
ect parts for $68.65 including US tracked shipping although I am out of the=
 country at present and would not be able to get one on its way until after=
 19 Mar.=20
Michael S=20
BN1 #174=20
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Roger Grace < roggrace@telus.net > wrote:=
=20



I have identified that my BJ8 water pump is noisy.=20
First thought that it was the fan (bad at certain RPM) but after removing t=
he belt it squeaks when rotated.=20
Looking at my drivers handbook, a lube point is shown.=20
However mine does not have one, only a small rectangular hole at the top an=
d bottom that I think is for removing the bearing retaining clip....?=20
Noise sounds to me like a dry bearing. Is there any way to lubricate it in =
situ ??=20
There is no lateral or longitudinal bearing play and the pump is supposedly=
 quite new per PO but not been used much.=20
Any ideas ? =E2=80=93or do I just bite the bullet and pull it and get a rep=
lacement; I note bearings are over 70% of cost of complete pump.=20
rg=20










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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">There is another known QA issue with t=
he repops: the shaft breaks; greatly reducing the efficacy of the pump and =
not very nice to your radiator either.<br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"=
><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decorat=
ion:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decorati=
on: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><d=
iv><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: '=
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ily: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #000000;"><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT=
-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; C=
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rmal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #=
000000" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; co=
lor: #000000;"><div>Michael,</div><div>Thank you appreciate your input and =
no don=E2=80=99t have the original unit.</div><div>Have now found the invoi=
ce and pump was bought in 2004 but car has done less than 1200 miles since =
then&nbsp; ...&nbsp; grrr !</div><div>rg</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quo=
t;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
: inline;"><div style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma" data-mce-style=3D"font: 10pt ta=
homa;"><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5" data-mce-style=
=3D"background: #f5f5f5;"><div style=3D"font-color: black" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-color: black;"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"michaelsalter@gmail.com" h=
ref=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"m=
ailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"><=
/div><div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:53 PM</div><div><b>To:=
</b> <a title=3D"roggrace@telus.net" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</a><=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healey List</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1=
"></div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Water Pump</div></div></div><div=
>&nbsp;</div></div><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; F=
ONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-=
STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-de=
coration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000=
; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif=
" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif=
;">Hi Roger,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: smal=
l; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: smal=
l; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">If the pump on your car is indee=
d a recent replacement it is very likely, based upon my experience with the=
 currently available BJ8 pumps, that the bearing has failed. <br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif;">Having disassembled a few of these repop pumps that have b=
een sent to me as "original cores" I can confirm that these are very poorly=
 made and it is amazing that they operate at all.<br>There is no facility f=
or lubricating the bearing as it is a sealed unit.</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif"=
 data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
">If you have the original that was removed from your engine I would strong=
ly recommend having it rebuilt or rebuilding it yourself as they are of far=
 superior design and when correctly rebuilt last for decades.<br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif;">Rebuilding instructions are <a href=3D"http://www.netbug.n=
et/blogmichael/?p=3D994" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.netb=
ug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D994">here</a> and I can supply a kit containing the=
 correct parts for $68.65 including US tracked shipping although I am out o=
f the country at present and would not be able to get one on its way until =
after 19 Mar.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: sma=
ll; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: sma=
ll; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Michael S<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sa=
ns-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sa=
ns-serif;">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div>&nbsp;</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Roger Grace=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1=
ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" data-mce-style=
=3D"padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: #ccc 1px sol=
id;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-=
FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #000000" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;=
 font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #000000;"><div>I have identified that=
 my BJ8 water pump is noisy.</div><div>First thought that it was the fan (b=
ad at certain RPM) but after removing the belt it squeaks when rotated.</di=
v><div>Looking at my drivers handbook, a lube point is shown.</div><div>How=
ever mine does not have one, only a small rectangular hole at the top and b=
ottom that I think is for removing the bearing retaining clip....?</div><di=
v>Noise sounds to me like a dry bearing. Is there any way to lubricate it i=
n situ ??</div><div>There is no lateral or longitudinal bearing play and th=
e pump is supposedly quite new per PO but not been used much.</div><div>Any=
 ideas ? =E2=80=93or do I just bite the bullet and pull it and get a replac=
ement; I note bearings are over 70% of cost of complete pump.</div><div>rg<=
/div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></div></div><br></blockquote></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>
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