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Not 100% sure what you mean by =E2=80=9Cthe advance curves are =
retained=E2=80=9D. In the 123 you can choose your advance curve.
And I=E2=80=99m sure one of the built in choice approximates to the =
original.
And yes(!), I too have a complete Lucas dizzie in my boot. The correct =
rotor arm, decent old Champion plug caps, bumble bee copper wire. Fitted =
with a Pertronix. Points also carried on longer expeditions. Belt and =
braces!!
Simon
=20
From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com]=20
Sent: 04 June 2015 07:33
To: Simon Lachlan
Cc: Bob Spidell; Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missing under Load
=20
The advantage with Pertonix over 123 is the advance curves are retained =
and also if your pertronix does fry, keeping points in the boot is easy =
for a backup. I have a 123 in my A90 and I keep a full lucas dizzy with =
attached cam driveshaft in the boot, just in case. Call me strange.
=20
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Simon Lachlan =
<simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
Or get a 123Ignition distributor.
Simon
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: 04 June 2015 06:09
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missing under Load
=20
Agree across-the-board. Had same problem with suppressor wires; =
installed copper stranded wires and no problem in 60K miles or so.
re: "Strongly suggested I install points instead of the Petronics." =
Why? Does he recommend blood-letting and trepanning for headaches? I =
know Jeff is an acknowledged expert, but disagree with the points =
recommendation. Name a modern manufacturer--they of the 100K mile =
tuneups--that recommends points? Have (probably) 80K miles on =
Pertronix--with OEM Lucas cap and stranded wires--with no ignition =
issues (save the occasional well-known bad rotor). If you like changing =
points every 5K miles, fine, but it's not the solution to every ignition =
problem.
You need: OEM Lucas distributor cap (if you can find one), stranded =
copper wire secondary wires, OEM Lucas suppressor plug caps, good plugs, =
and a quality rotor.
Bob
On 6/3/2015 6:33 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
If you are running suppressed modern wires into your standard Lucas cap, =
you can have huge problems, as the graphite type materials they use in =
these don't like connecting to the screw connector in the Lucas cap . =
You need to use metal core wires, such as bumble bee wire.=20
=20
Also did you check distributor shaft wobble? If your dizzy bushes are =
worn, and you have excessive wobble, you could also be having similar =
problems.
=20
Lastly, check internal wires/insulating washers in the dizzy make sure =
it is all kosher.
=20
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, R. Price Lindsay <050.rpl@gmail.com> =
wrote:
Took the BJ8 out today. Changed the plug wire to #6 (there was a =
visible spark last night). The car struggled big time Had to change =
rotors every 3 miles in order to get the car home. Driving along and =
all of a sudden backfire, black smoke, nothing. Changed the rotor (it =
was noticeably hot) and got another 2 or 3 miles out of it. Looked =
tonight in the dark and the visible spark from number 6 plug was not =
there. Talked to Jeff with Advanced Distributors and he suggested it =
was plug wires. Strongly suggested I install points instead of the =
Petronics. At his suggestion, I checked the ohm reading on the plug =
wires and they checked out OK. Still wondering if it could be bad gas, =
I did add a product called =E2=80=9CHeat.=E2=80=9D Supposed to absorb =
any water that may be in the gas tank. Not much help, so far.
I=E2=80=99m waiting for the plug wires and distributor cap from Moss =
Motors to show up to install them. Hope that helps but not really =
convinced it=E2=80=99s the solution.
Do you guys have any words of wisdom for me?
Price Lindsay
67 BJ8
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Not 100% sure what you mean by =E2=80=9Cthe advance curves are =
retained=E2=80=9D. In the 123 you can choose your advance =
curve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> And I=E2=80=99m sure one of the built in choice approximates to the =
original.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>And yes(!), I too have a complete Lucas dizzie in my boot. The =
correct rotor arm, decent old Champion plug caps, bumble bee copper =
wire. Fitted with a Pertronix. Points also carried on longer =
expeditions. Belt and braces!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Alan =
Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 04 June 2015 =
07:33<br><b>To:</b> Simon Lachlan<br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Spidell; Healey =
list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Missing under =
Load<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
advantage with Pertonix over 123 is the advance curves are retained and =
also if your pertronix does fry, keeping points in the boot is easy for =
a backup. I have a 123 in my A90 and I keep a full lucas dizzy =
with attached cam driveshaft in the boot, just in case. Call me =
strange.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Jun 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Simon Lachlan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; =
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Or get a 123Ignition distributor.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 June 2015 06:09<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Missing under Load</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Agree =
across-the-board. Had same problem with suppressor wires; =
installed copper stranded wires and no problem in 60K miles or =
so.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br>re: =
"Strongly suggested I install points instead of the =
Petronics." Why? Does he recommend blood-letting =
and trepanning for headaches? I know Jeff is an acknowledged =
expert, but disagree with the points recommendation. Name a modern =
manufacturer--they of the 100K mile tuneups--that recommends =
points? Have (probably) 80K miles on Pertronix--with OEM Lucas cap =
and stranded wires--with no ignition issues (save the occasional =
well-known bad rotor). If you like changing points every 5K miles, =
fine, but it's not the solution to every ignition problem.<br><br>You =
need: OEM Lucas distributor cap (if you can find one), stranded copper =
wire secondary wires, OEM Lucas suppressor plug caps, good plugs, and a =
quality rotor.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 6/3/2015 =
6:33 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you are =
running suppressed modern wires into your standard Lucas cap, you can =
have huge problems, as the graphite type materials they use in these =
don't like connecting to the screw connector in the Lucas cap . =
You need to use metal core wires, such as bumble bee wire. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also did =
you check distributor shaft wobble? If your dizzy bushes are worn, =
and you have excessive wobble, you could also be having similar =
problems.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Lastly, =
check internal wires/insulating washers in the dizzy make sure it is all =
kosher.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Jun =
4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, R. Price Lindsay <<a =
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">050.rpl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Took the BJ8 out =
today. Changed the plug wire to #6 (there was a visible spark last =
night). The car struggled big time Had to change rotors =
every 3 miles in order to get the car home. Driving along and all =
of a sudden backfire, black smoke, nothing. Changed the rotor (it =
was noticeably hot) and got another 2 or 3 miles out of it. Looked =
tonight in the dark and the visible spark from number 6 plug was not =
there. Talked to Jeff with Advanced Distributors and he suggested =
it was plug wires. Strongly suggested I install points instead of =
the Petronics. At his suggestion, I checked the ohm reading on the =
plug wires and they checked out OK. Still wondering if it could be =
bad gas, I did add a product called =E2=80=9CHeat.=E2=80=9D =
Supposed to absorb any water that may be in the gas tank. Not much =
help, so far.<br><br>I=E2=80=99m waiting for the plug wires and =
distributor cap from Moss Motors to show up to install them. Hope =
that helps but not really convinced it=E2=80=99s the solution.<br><br>Do =
you guys have any words of wisdom for me?<br><br>Price Lindsay<br>67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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