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Should it be dry? I adjusted my valves and oil bubbled up, not squirted.
The rear flange on my valve cover was flat and the gasket was not glued
down. I had a lot of oil leaking out the back of the Cover. Need to get in
a replace the cover and right stuff the gasket to see if that helps. I have
maybe 60k miles over the last 40 years.
Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jul 9, 2015 6:24 PM, "David Nock" <healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and
> using lots of oil the PCV kit will make it worse.
> Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the rebuilde=
r
> installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting way to high
> and causing your problem.
>
> The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter it will
> be soaked with oil.
>
> One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and see if
> the problem goes away.
>
> The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn our
> rocker assy.
>
>
> David Nock
> healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
> 209 948 8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
>
> *From:* Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption
>
> I've had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; mayb=
e
> 40K miles or more. It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 miles to
> 1qt/3,500 miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more for
> around-town miles). There is no downside that I know of; others have
> reported gunk on the rear intake valves. I'm contemplating an engine
> rebuild; will find out then.
>
> I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt engine.
> Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome on the
> carbs--and check for oil residue. If the rear is worse than the front ca=
rb
> it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb. Does he have
> any leakage around the valve cover? That would indicate the crankcase is
> getting pressurized. Is he dripping a lot of oil? Is it leaking from th=
e
> timing cover seal?
>
> Bob
>
> On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons wrote:
>
> If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the
> negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacu=
um
> and harm seals gaskets etc. ?? Mitch. 66 bj8
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> 6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design British
> engine. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
> The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear of
> bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case
> breathing system.
> Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for wear in
> the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.
> That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, it
> depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild a
> few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with the oi=
l
> consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, unless they ar=
e
> totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.
>
> ^qwarthodson@aol.com schreef op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:
>
> A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil
> consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
> I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago & the
> compression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks.
> Thanks,
> Gary Hodson
>
> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the next
> couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to
> identify why I have had so much oil consumption. FYI, I just emptied the=
6
> th quart of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,00=
0
> miles. It is better than before the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is
> not acceptable to me.
>
> Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil from
> the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover. He thinks the
> air cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum pulling oil fro=
m
> the valve cover and injecting it back into the piston and is actually
> burning the oil off very efficiently. I still don=E2=80=99t have any sig=
ns of
> leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the tailpipe. Quite possibly th=
e
> current Cooper air cleaners are too small and are creating this vacuum.
> The Cooper air cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the
> original owner had on the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was or=
iginal equipment.
>
> Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue with oi=
l
> consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D that worked for them=
? Maybe there are
> other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to examine as well.
>
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Should it be dry? I adjusted my valves and oil bubbled up, n=
ot squirted.=C2=A0 The rear flange on my valve cover was flat and the gaske=
t was not glued down. I had a lot of oil leaking out the back of the Cover.=
Need to get in a replace the cover and right stuff the gasket to see if th=
at helps. I have maybe 60k miles over the last 40 years.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 9, 2015 6:24 PM, "David Nock" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>healeydoc@gmail.com</a>> wrote=
:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Century';COLOR:#000000">
<div>If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and us=
ing=20
lots of oil the PCV kit will make it worse.</div>
<div>Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the rebui=
lder=20
installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting way to high a=
nd=20
causing your problem.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter it w=
ill=20
be soaked with oil.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and see=
if=20
the problem goes away.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn our r=
ocker=20
assy.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Century';COLOR:#000000">D=
avid=20
Nock<br><a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
doc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>209 948=20
8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr=
i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"bspidell@comcast.net" href=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">Bob Spidell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr=
i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">=
I've=20
had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; may=
be 40K miles=20
or more.=C2=A0 It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 miles to 1qt/3,500=
=20
miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more for around-town=20
miles).=C2=A0 There is no downside that I know of; others have reported gun=
k on=20
the rear intake valves.=C2=A0 I'm contemplating an engine rebuild; will=
find out=20
then.<br><br>I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt=
=20
engine.=C2=A0 Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome on=
the=20
carbs--and check for oil residue.=C2=A0 If the rear is worse than the front=
carb=20
it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb.=C2=A0 Does he ha=
ve=20
any leakage around the valve cover?=C2=A0 That would indicate the crankcase=
is=20
getting pressurized.=C2=A0 Is he dripping a lot of oil?=C2=A0 Is it leaking=
from=20
the timing cover seal?<br><br>Bob<br><br>
<div>On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the=20
negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacu=
um=20
and harm seals gaskets etc. ??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mitch. 66=20
bj8<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys <<a href=3D"mailto:coud=
esluijs@chello.nl" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>> wrote:<b=
r><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for=20
an old design British engine. It also depends how the rebuild was=20
done.<br>The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are =
wear=20
of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case=
=20
breathing system.<br>Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system f=
irst.=20
Check for wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot en=
gine.=20
<br>That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, =
it=20
depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild =
a few=20
years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????<br><br>Kees=
=20
Oudesluijs<br>=C2=A0<br>It is very unlikely that the air filters have=
=20
something to do with the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak o=
f=20
created there, unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.=
=20
<br><br>^<a href=3D"mailto:qwarthodson@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">qwart=
hodson@aol.com</a> schreef op 8-7-2015 om=20
1:55:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following questi=
on about=20
excess oil consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any=20
suggestions.</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">I know the engine has been professionally re=
built a=20
few years ago & the compression & leak down tests recently lo=
oked=20
"normal". No oil leaks. </div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my mechanic =
the other=20
day and in the next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis o=
n my=20
Healey to try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.=C2=
=A0=20
FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup> quart of oil into the engine=
=20
yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,000 miles.=C2=A0 It is better =
than before=20
the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to=
=20
combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with =
the=20
valve cover.=C2=A0 He thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is some=
how=20
creating a vacuum pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it b=
ack=20
into the piston and is actually burning the oil off very=20
efficiently.=C2=A0 I still don=E2=80=99t have any signs of leaks bene=
ath the car=20
nor any smoke from the tailpipe.=C2=A0 Quite possibly the current Coo=
per=20
air cleaners are too small and are creating this vacuum.=C2=A0 The Co=
oper=20
air cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original own=
er=20
had on the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equi=
pment.</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if anyone els=
e had a=20
similar issue with oil consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=
=80=9D that worked=20
for them?=C2=A0 Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my=
=20
mechanic to examine as well.</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div></blockquote></div></blockquote>=
</blockquote><br>
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