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When I had new wheels and knock offs, they seemed to behave this way, as Mi=
chael says, when they were new, but it seemed the paint had to wear off on =
the taper surface of the wheel before everything tightened up properly...ju=
st an observation from a few years back- no trouble since.Stephen, BJ8
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>=20
Cc: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Splines and Wheels
=20
Hi Roger,
I have encountered that problem myself with new wheels and splines. so you =
are not alone. What was most confusing was that after tightening fully and =
removing the KO nut the wheel pulled off the spline easily so my theory abo=
ut slight interference on the spline did not hold water.=20
Never really found a cause and it went away after the wheels were run on th=
e road for a while after which the KO nut would spin on by hand and require=
about 1/2 a turn of tightening=20
Please let me know if you figure out the cause..
BTW good video about making wire wheels here.
http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-wheels/
Michael S
BN1 #174=20
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
I have just installed new MWS=C2=A0 5.5in 72 spoke wheels and new Moss (USA=
made) splined hubs on the rear of my BJ8. Also fitted new turret lug nuts.=
I am not happy with the fitment as have to hammer the hell out of the spinn=
er to take up the peripheral play in the wheels.What gives ? Spoken to both=
MWS and Moss and they are at a loss.I can confirm that the hub mounting st=
uds are not touching the inside of the wheel and that the spinners are not =
bottoming.Switched front to back spinners and no change.Spinner thread ID s=
eems to be within spec. at 2.194 inNow thinking about new spinners .. ?? Ar=
e there perhaps spinners with a different taper .. ?Anyone had similar issu=
es ??=C2=A0As an aside, trying to get my head around all this, appears to m=
e that torque is also (as well as splines) transmitted by the taper fit bet=
ween the wheel inside and hub, as otherwise the wheel would not tighten whe=
n the spinner is tightened .. ??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
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n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_8816">When I had new wheels and knock of=
fs, they seemed to behave this way, as Michael says, when they were new, bu=
t it seemed the paint had to wear off on the taper surface of the wheel bef=
ore everything tightened up properly...just an observation from a few years=
back- no trouble since.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_=
8817"><span>Stephen, BJ8</span></div><br> <div style=3D"font-family: Helve=
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gmail.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Roge=
r Grace <roggrace@telus.net> <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;=
">Cc:</span></b> Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net> <br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 2, 2015 1:41 =
PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Heale=
ys] Splines and Wheels<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_8853"><br><div id=3D"yiv7961161682"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_8852"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
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amily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144651=
4839712_9021">Hi Roger,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv7961161682=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_8850">I have encountered that problem=
myself with new wheels and splines. so you are not alone. What was most co=
nfusing was that after tightening fully and removing the KO nut the wheel p=
ulled off the spline easily so my theory about slight interference on the s=
pline did not hold water. <br clear=3D"none">Never really found a cause and=
it went away after the wheels were run on the road for a while after which=
the KO nut would spin on by hand and require about 1/2 a turn of tightenin=
g <br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv7961161682gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1446514839712_8885">Please let me know if you figure out the cause..<br=
clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv7961161682gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">BTW good video about =
making wire wheels here.<br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://cara.co.id/2015/06/how-to-make-wire-whe=
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ne"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv7961161682gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1446514839712_8889">Michael S<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yi=
v7961161682gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446514839712_8887">BN1 #174 <br clear=
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<div>I have just installed new MWS 5.5in 72 spoke wheels and new Moss=
(USA=20
made) splined hubs on the rear of my BJ8. Also fitted new turret lug nuts.<=
/div>
<div>I am not happy with the fitment as have to hammer the hell out of the=
=20
spinner to take up the peripheral play in the wheels.</div>
<div>What gives ? Spoken to both MWS and Moss and they are at a loss.</div>
<div>I can confirm that the hub mounting studs are not touching the inside =
of=20
the wheel and that the spinners are not bottoming.</div>
<div>Switched front to back spinners and no change.</div>
<div>Spinner thread ID seems to be within spec. at 2.194 in</div>
<div>Now thinking about new spinners .. ?? Are there perhaps spinners with =
a=20
different taper .. ?</div>
<div>Anyone had similar issues ??</div>
<div> </div>
<div>As an aside, trying to get my head around all this, appears to me that=
=20
torque is also (as well as splines) transmitted by the taper fit between th=
e=20
wheel inside and hub, as otherwise the wheel would not tighten when the spi=
nner=20
is tightened .. ??</div>
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