Re: [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2

[Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>]

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Keith--

After reading your subsequent posts I see I misinterpreted your problem and
it is not one of the track being too wide due to incorrect wheel
offset/backspacing.  If your wheels/tires are not centered in the rear
wheel openings then Michael Salter has pointed you in the correct direction.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Keith,
> May be worth looking into relocating the rear axle back about1/2"...it is
> a lot easier than re-arching and refinishing a fender (guard).
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andy  The front are OK The BN2 has the higher cutout on the front
>> & I think the rear is the same as the BN1. It is the rear right that is the
>> problem Before I considered modifying the fender (guard) I was hoping to
>> make sure this problem was not just my car , re working a newly painted
>> guard is a last resort
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On 12 December 2015 at 11:58, Andy Thorp <bce257@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Dunlop 48 spokes and XAS from Longstone on a 57 BN4 and the RR tyre
>>> fouls the rear arch point at the back when crossing curbs. LR has about
>>> 15mm. The RR guard has the wheel cutout about 5mm smaller and sits about
>>> 5mm further forward than the left side which means the rear tip is below
>>> the tyre tread on level ground.
>>>
>>> I had the arch re-rolled 5mm bigger and hopefully this will give enough
>>> clearance.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 December 2015 7:12 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2
>>>
>>> My old 48 spoke rims have run their life , fitted with 165/80R Hancooks
>>> also past their use by date.
>>>
>>> Updated to Dayton 60 spoke 4-1/5 rims with Michelin 180/HR XAS as
>>> recommended by Longstone Tyres UK
>>>    as closest match for Dunlop RS5.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Hancooks looked a bit lean in the wheel arch while the Michelins
>>> fill it out nicely.
>>>
>>> PROBLEM  :-          The right side tyre now touches the guard bottom
>>> turn-in & the left side is just clear.
>>>                                 Both rear  tyres sit just outside the
>>> guard & I am concerned that wheel travel will hit the guards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Daytons were purchased from the Healey Factory here in OZ & claimed
>>> to be specifically for a BN1-2.
>>> To me it looks like the rim should sit  further in ie the offset is too
>>> far out.
>>>
>>> The rim is branded 4.5 Beadlace D2-88.
>>>
>>> Any input would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Keith Taylor
>>> Southern Highlands OZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Keith=
--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">After reading your subsequ=
ent posts I see I misinterpreted your problem and it is not one of the trac=
k being too wide due to incorrect wheel offset/backspacing.=C2=A0 If your w=
heels/tires are not centered in the rear wheel openings then Michael Salter=
 has pointed you in the correct direction.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Michael Salte=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Keith,<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">May be worth looking into relocating the rear axle back about1/=
2&quot;...it is a lot easier than re-arching and refinishing a fender (guar=
d).<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<=
br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv><div class=3D"h5">On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Keith Taylor <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ktee20@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">ktee20=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Andy=C2=A0 The fron=
t are OK The BN2 has the higher cutout on the front &amp; I think the rear =
is the same as the BN1.=C2=A0It is the rear right that is the problem Befor=
e I considered modifying the fender (guard) I was hoping to make sure this =
problem was not just my car , re working a newly painted guard is a last re=
sort</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Keith</div></fo=
nt></span></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On 12 December 2015 at 11:58, Andy Thorp <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bce257@yahoo.co.nz"; target=3D"_blank">bce257@yahoo.co.nz</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luci=
da Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Hi Keith,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dun=
lop 48 spokes and XAS from Longstone on a 57 BN4 and the RR tyre fouls the =
rear arch point at the back when crossing curbs. LR has about 15mm. The RR =
guard has the wheel cutout about 5mm smaller and sits about 5mm further for=
ward than the left side which means the rear tip is below the tyre tread on=
 level ground. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I had =
the arch re-rolled 5mm bigger and hopefully this will give enough clearance=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Andy.<br></div><div><spa=
n></span></div><br>  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue=
,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"> <div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-S=
erif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <font size=3D"2" fa=
ce=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Keith Ta=
ylor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ktee20@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">ktee20@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> healeys=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span><=
/b> Friday, 11 December 2015 7:12 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold=
">Subject:</span></b> [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2<br> <=
/font> </div> <div><div><div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My old 48 spoke=
 rims have run their life , fitted with 165/80R Hancooks also=C2=A0past the=
ir use by date.</div><div><br></div><div>Updated to Dayton 60 spoke 4-1/5 r=
ims with Michelin 180/HR XAS as recommended by Longstone Tyres UK</div><div=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 as closest match for Dunlop RS5.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0 </div><div>The Hancooks looked a bit lean in the wheel arch while the M=
ichelins fill it out nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>PROBLEM=C2=A0 :-=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The right side tyre now=
 touches the guard bottom turn-in &amp; the left side is just clear.</div><=
div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Both rear =C2=A0tyres sit j=
ust outside the guard &amp; I am concerned that wheel travel will hit the g=
uards.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The Daytons w=
ere purchased from the Healey Factory here in OZ &amp; claimed to be specif=
ically for a BN1-2.</div><div>To me it looks like the rim should sit =C2=A0=
further in ie the offset is too far out.</div><div><br></div><div>The rim i=
s branded 4.5 Beadlace D2-88.</div><div><br></div><div>Any input would be a=
ppreciated</div><div><br></div><div>Keith Taylor</div><div>Southern Highlan=
ds OZ</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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