Ethanol causes havoc with my Harley Davidson carb and fuel system.? If I don't
ride the bike regularly at least once a week the fuel system gets plugged with
a sticky residue.? If I am lucky I can get the bike started and I have to run
the freeway at 65 MPH for a half hour or so to clean out the crap with a fresh
fuel flow.? I hav also had to replace the rubber diaphragm in the CV carb
because the ethanol ate a hole in it.? Not a fan of ethanol.Mike MacLean
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:36 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
wrote:
That's been my experience.? We've logged many thousands of miles and
calculated the MPG we get on every tank; the difference between 10%
gasahol and pure gas is negligible (although it's impossible to get
exact comparisons because road conditions, altitude, etc. change over
the course of a tank).? Also, FWIW, in 140K miles I've never had a
problem that could be attributed to ethanol; I just replaced the
Petroflex hard line to carburettor flex line because it was a little
stiff but was in otherwise good nick at over 100K miles.? The coating in
the tank has held up as well.
But I still don't like subsidizing ADM.
Bob
On 5/30/2018 8:39 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> The better mileage on pure petrol is only theoretical. In practice you
> will not notice at all. Ethanol has a lower energy content so you
> would require more ethanol than petrol for a given amount of energy.
> However there is only 5% maximum in petrol unless stated otherwise in
> Europe and a small bit of 5% is negligible and well within the
> tolerance of the accuracy of the measurement. I very much doubt if one
> can register an increase of 1% in mileage. There are so many other
> factors influencing mileage.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 30-5-2018 om 12:55 schreef simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com:
>> The Ethanol rules are different here in the UK. Probably dreamed up
>> by some booby in Brussels, passed into law and we're the only country
>> enforcing it.
>> As to the practicalities.......I'm not sure about my current setup
>> (Webers) but previously (3 HD6s), I was pretty sure that I got more
>> mileage for my money on high(er) octane. More bangs for my
>> buck/better value for money..whatever.
>> Simon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> Bob Haskell
>> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:00
>> To: John Rowe <john at jtkarowe.com.au>
>> Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>
>> One can still buy non-ethanol fuel at the pump here in the States;
>> Countrymark is one company that sells premium with zero ethanol.? One
>> can't always tell if there's ethanol in the gasoline by looking at
>> the pump.? Apparently, it's up to the individual state to decide if a
>> label on the pump is required. I don't think that it's required in
>> Indiana.
>>
>> A couple of reasons for ethanol: reduces amount of oil used/imported
>> and another market for corn.? Not sure I agree with using a
>> foodstuff, but that's what's been done.
>>
>> The other issue I've wondered about, but haven't looked into, is the
>> price differential between grades of gasoline.? For years the mid
>> grade was 10 cents a gallon more than regular and premium was another
>> 10 cents.? In the last couple of years it's changed to 25 to 30 cents
>> between grades.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob Haskell
>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
>> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>>
>> On 05/29/2018 10:04 PM, John Rowe wrote:
>>> OK, thanks Mike. We have it in Oz, and the greenies here are trying to
>>> make it mandatory I believe. We can buy 91/95/98 unleaded at the pump.
>>> For 98 we pay about $1.70/litre.
>>>
>>> At 2c/litre discount for E10 from 91 octane (which won?t run Healeys),
>>> why would you bother buying it due to the decreased mpg.
>>>
>>> John Rowe Qld Australia
>>>
>>> *From:*Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:26 AM
>>> *To:* john at jtkarowe.com.au; tld6008 at mchsi.com
>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List'
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> Fuel at the pump is 10% ethanol by law.? Right now gasoline is going
>>> for an average of $3.75 to $4 US per gallon.? If you want fuel without
>>> ethanol you can buy high octane racing gas, but it's $10 per gallon
>>> and it is supposed to be illegal in street vehicles.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
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>>>
>>> ???? On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:43 PM, John Rowe
>>>
>>> ???? <john at jtkarowe.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???? As an Australian, I ask ?why do you use ethanol in these
>>> vehicles??,
>>> ???? or don?t you have a say as to what you use in your countries.
>>>
>>> ???? John Rowe
>>>
>>> ???? Qld Australia
>>>
>>> ???? *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> ???? *Michael MacLean
>>> ???? *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 5:55 AM
>>> ???? *To:* tld6008 at mchsi.com
>>> ???? *Cc:* Healey List
>>> ???? *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> ???? Don't do it.? It will fill with gas in about two years and you
>>> will
>>> ???? be doing this again.? All you have to do is buy a brass float and
>>> ???? swap it out for the plastic one and sleep well at night. It just
>>> ???? snaps right in. The brass float is a Ford part no. COAZ-9202-B.
>>> You
>>> ???? can find them on eBay, Amazon, Summit Racing and even the Ford
>>> ???? dealer.? Ethanol does not eat brass.
>>>
>>> ???? Mike M.
>>>
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>>>
>>> ???????? On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Tim Davis BN7
>>>
>>> ???????? <tld6008 at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???????? I had the powdery residue all over mine. I just bought a
>>> new one
>>> ???????? from Moss it has a plastic float. Hopefully it will hold up.
>>>
>>>
>>> ???????? Tim Davis BN7
>>>
>>> ???????? ----- Original Message -----
>>> ???????? From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
>>> ???????? To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>> ???????? Sent: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
>>> ???????? Subject: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> ???????? This past weekend I removed the tank to extract the sending
>>> unit
>>> ???????? on my Bugeye because of a constant reading of empty on the
>>> ???????? gauge.? As suspected, the plastic float was filled with
>>> ???????? gasoline.? Ethanol!? While replacing the plastic float for
>>> brass
>>> ???????? and the cork gaskets for Viton type gaskets, I also swapped
>>> out
>>> ???????? the sending unit top cover cork gasket with a Viton type using
>>> ???????? Hylomar AF to seal things up.? The big surprise came when I
>>> ???????? found the rheostat cavity full of gasoline.? Must have entered
>>> ???????? through the hole in the sending unit body for the float lever.
>>> ???????? Anyone have experience with this?? Should I be concerned?? I
>>> ???????? remember the original sending unit I removed form the Bugeye
>>> ???????? tank was full of a white powdery residue around the rheostat
>>> ???????? like it had also been filled with gasoline.? Anyone have
>>> ???????? experience with this?
>>>
>>> ???????? Mike MacLean
>>>
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