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Subject: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 03:31:44 +0000 (UTC)
References: <Nj7zfQYaMKuJJNj81fuIkD> <1019908234.356391202.1527623191775.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com> <1366495005.2470178.1527623688859@mail.yahoo.com> <001201d3f7a6$1cdaced0$56906c70$@com.au> <853331632.2533464.1527639933081@mail.yahoo.com> <001d01d3f7ba$810f7d10$832e7730$@com.au> <42bdd87a-fcff-79aa-64f0-679a1f99ced1@earthlink.net> <000601d3f804$ac8e2230$05aa6690$@alexarevel.plus.com> <c2b4f11c-638f-9146-91b3-988b96ca762c@chello.nl> <890df6ef-9db6-a3cc-0b53-306950cd4b02@comcast.net> <CY4PR19MB012089364BDD16CF9C6323D5A5630@CY4PR19MB0120.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
I agree with Bill ethanol is driving up the price of Bourbon.Rat Juncal

      From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>
 To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; "healeys at autox.team.net" 
<healeys at autox.team.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
   
#yiv0959090549 #yiv0959090549 -- P 
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv0959090549 Whatever happened to "Alcohol and 
gasoline don't mix."?
I prefer my ethanol chilled?in 16 ounce containers...
Bill LawrenceBN1 #554From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on 
behalf of Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:23:39 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol?That's been my experience.? We've 
logged many thousands of miles and
calculated the MPG we get on every tank; the difference between 10% 
gasahol and pure gas is negligible (although it's impossible to get 
exact comparisons because road conditions, altitude, etc. change over 
the course of a tank).? Also, FWIW, in 140K miles I've never had a 
problem that could be attributed to ethanol; I just replaced the 
Petroflex hard line to carburettor flex line because it was a little 
stiff but was in otherwise good nick at over 100K miles.? The coating in 
the tank has held up as well.

But I still don't like subsidizing ADM.

Bob


On 5/30/2018 8:39 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> The better mileage on pure petrol is only theoretical. In practice you 
> will not notice at all. Ethanol has a lower energy content so you 
> would require more ethanol than petrol for a given amount of energy. 
> However there is only 5% maximum in petrol unless stated otherwise in 
> Europe and a small bit of 5% is negligible and well within the 
> tolerance of the accuracy of the measurement. I very much doubt if one 
> can register an increase of 1% in mileage. There are so many other 
> factors influencing mileage.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 30-5-2018 om 12:55 schreef simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com:
>> The Ethanol rules are different here in the UK. Probably dreamed up 
>> by some booby in Brussels, passed into law and we're the only country 
>> enforcing it.
>> As to the practicalities.......I'm not sure about my current setup 
>> (Webers) but previously (3 HD6s), I was pretty sure that I got more 
>> mileage for my money on high(er) octane. More bangs for my 
>> buck/better value for money..whatever.
>> Simon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> Bob Haskell
>> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:00
>> To: John Rowe <john at jtkarowe.com.au>
>> Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>
>> One can still buy non-ethanol fuel at the pump here in the States; 
>> Countrymark is one company that sells premium with zero ethanol.? One 
>> can't always tell if there's ethanol in the gasoline by looking at 
>> the pump.? Apparently, it's up to the individual state to decide if a 
>> label on the pump is required. I don't think that it's required in 
>> Indiana.
>>
>> A couple of reasons for ethanol: reduces amount of oil used/imported 
>> and another market for corn.? Not sure I agree with using a 
>> foodstuff, but that's what's been done.
>>
>> The other issue I've wondered about, but haven't looked into, is the 
>> price differential between grades of gasoline.? For years the mid 
>> grade was 10 cents a gallon more than regular and premium was another 
>> 10 cents.? In the last couple of years it's changed to 25 to 30 cents 
>> between grades.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob Haskell
>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
>> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>>
>> On 05/29/2018 10:04 PM, John Rowe wrote:
>>> OK, thanks Mike. We have it in Oz, and the greenies here are trying to
>>> make it mandatory I believe. We can buy 91/95/98 unleaded at the pump.
>>> For 98 we pay about $1.70/litre.
>>>
>>> At 2c/litre discount for E10 from 91 octane (which won?t run Healeys),
>>> why would you bother buying it due to the decreased mpg.
>>>
>>> John Rowe Qld Australia
>>>
>>> *From:*Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:26 AM
>>> *To:* john at jtkarowe.com.au; tld6008 at mchsi.com
>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List'
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> Fuel at the pump is 10% ethanol by law.? Right now gasoline is going
>>> for an average of $3.75 to $4 US per gallon.? If you want fuel without
>>> ethanol you can buy high octane racing gas, but it's $10 per gallon
>>> and it is supposed to be illegal in street vehicles.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
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>>> ???? On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:43 PM, John Rowe
>>>
>>> ???? <john at jtkarowe.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???? As an Australian, I ask ?why do you use ethanol in these 
>>> vehicles??,
>>> ???? or don?t you have a say as to what you use in your countries.
>>>
>>> ???? John Rowe
>>>
>>> ???? Qld Australia
>>>
>>> ???? *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> ???? *Michael MacLean
>>> ???? *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 May 2018 5:55 AM
>>> ???? *To:* tld6008 at mchsi.com
>>> ???? *Cc:* Healey List
>>> ???? *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> ???? Don't do it.? It will fill with gas in about two years and you 
>>> will
>>> ???? be doing this again.? All you have to do is buy a brass float and
>>> ???? swap it out for the plastic one and sleep well at night. It just
>>> ???? snaps right in. The brass float is a Ford part no. COAZ-9202-B. 
>>> You
>>> ???? can find them on eBay, Amazon, Summit Racing and even the Ford
>>> ???? dealer.? Ethanol does not eat brass.
>>>
>>> ???? Mike M.
>>>
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>>>
>>> ???????? On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Tim Davis BN7
>>>
>>> ???????? <tld6008 at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ???????? I had the powdery residue all over mine. I just bought a 
>>> new one
>>> ???????? from Moss it has a plastic float. Hopefully it will hold up.
>>>
>>>
>>> ???????? Tim Davis BN7
>>>
>>> ???????? ----- Original Message -----
>>> ???????? From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
>>> ???????? To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>> ???????? Sent: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
>>> ???????? Subject: [Healeys] Effects of Ethanol
>>>
>>> ???????? This past weekend I removed the tank to extract the sending 
>>> unit
>>> ???????? on my Bugeye because of a constant reading of empty on the
>>> ???????? gauge.? As suspected, the plastic float was filled with
>>> ???????? gasoline.? Ethanol!? While replacing the plastic float for 
>>> brass
>>> ???????? and the cork gaskets for Viton type gaskets, I also swapped 
>>> out
>>> ???????? the sending unit top cover cork gasket with a Viton type using
>>> ???????? Hylomar AF to seal things up.? The big surprise came when I
>>> ???????? found the rheostat cavity full of gasoline.? Must have entered
>>> ???????? through the hole in the sending unit body for the float lever.
>>> ???????? Anyone have experience with this?? Should I be concerned?? I
>>> ???????? remember the original sending unit I removed form the Bugeye
>>> ???????? tank was full of a white powdery residue around the rheostat
>>> ???????? like it had also been filled with gasoline.? Anyone have
>>> ???????? experience with this?
>>>
>>> ???????? Mike MacLean
>>>

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