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To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 05:55:46 -0700
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Is that a body # or vin #? My understanding was vin# were only stamped on
BJ8s

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:06 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

> That=E2=80=99s wrong. My MkII BT7 certainly does. Can=E2=80=99t remember =
about the Mk Is
> etc.
>
> Bill Bolton, Mr Tricarb himself, was always very keen to get those number=
s
> for his archive.
>
> The numbers are fairly hard to access unless the front end is pretty much
> stripped down.
>
> See attached. Not mine. Can=E2=80=99t remember whose=E2=80=A6.maybe Bill =
sent it to me to
> show where to look.
>
> He pointed out that they can get virtually lost under a few coats of pain=
t.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs
> *Sent:* 16 October 2018 18:31
> *To:* Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
>
>
>
> BT7 3000s did not have the # stamped on the shock towers.
>
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Portland,OR
>
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>
>
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> From what I understand, earlier 3000s have a number stamped there, but it
> doesn't match any other other number on the car, but BJ8s do have the
> chassis number there.
>
>
>
> On 10/15/2018 8:06 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
>
> So Charlie,
>
>
>
> Yes, 3000s should have the chassis number stamped on the right front shoc=
k
> tower.
>
>
>
> To be clear, Phase I BJ8's (1964) looked very similar to BJ7's.  They had
> *glass* "Beehive" front parking/side and rear stop lights, reflectors,
> the pull versus the push-button door handles and the lower rear axle.  Th=
ey
> DID have the wood dash and of course the larger engine making them BJ8s n=
ot
> BJ7s.
>
>
>
> Here's a nice example in Black w/red interior...
>
>
>
> https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=3D1&slid=
e=3D13
>
>
>
> Now Phase II BJ8's came in a number of variations.  When they first came
> out in 1964-5 they now had the single plastic lights front and rear with
> the reflectors, the jacked up rear end, and push button door handles.
>
>
>
> Here's another nice example in Black w/red interior...
>
>
>
>
> https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-hea=
ley-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii
>
>
>
> In '66 and '67 we have the final version with all plastic lights, two
> front and two rear.
>
>
>
> One final example in Black over Red w/ a red interior...
>
>
>
> https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721
>
>
>
> This should clear things up.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> So Curt, you may be saying that this car does not match what a car with
> that chassis number should look like.  Don't BJ8s have the chassis number
> stamped on the right front shock mount?  So it may be titled with the wro=
ng
> chassis number.  That is a greater concern to me than being the wrong col=
or
> or having poorly fitting seat covers.  The poorly stamped chassis number
> plate could be part of the issue also.
>
> When I saw it on the screen when it came up for auction, I thought that i=
t
> probably isn't really a '65 due to the double parking/ts lights.  Then I
> figured it was just an error on the year they put on the title.  But this
> is much more serious an issue since the chassis number does not indicate =
it
> is a Phase 2 BJ8, when it definitely looks like one.
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
> On 10/15/2018 1:04 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
>
> FWIW...
>
>
>
> Obviously, there are some issues with this car.
>
>
>
> Regarding the seats, I agree, the fit is terrible and that also brings up
> another issue in that the vast majority of US delivered convertibles came
> with vinyl interiors, and it was a very rare option to have leather seats=
.
> I don't know the percentage off the top of my head, but it may have been
> less than 5%.  I will check.
>
>
>
> <Leather on BJ8=E2=80=99s was an option on home market cars (England). Ve=
ry few
> original American LHD BJ8 have been observed with leather seats -- *=E2=
=80=9CLeather
> trim for seats, armrest and rear folding squabs=E2=80=9D *was listed as a=
n
> available option for BJ8's.>
>
>
>
> For me the biggest potential issue is that this car is supposedly a 1965
> (chassis no. *30659*), and as such it would have had the single plastic
> side lights up front and also in the rear, with reflectors instead of the
> second set of amber plastic turn signal lights?
>
>
>
> From the 2018 Guidelines...
>
>
>
> <BJ8s from Car No. 26705 have a single front parking/turn flasher unit
> with a white plastic lens that is larger and flatter in profile (Lucas ty=
pe
> 692), up through Phase II BJ8 (C) *31337* (B) 76137.
>
>
>
> Rear combination tail/turn signal/brake lights with a single
> beehive-shaped red lens, on the fender just above the bumper, were used o=
n
> all Healeys up to Phase II BJ8 Car No. *31336* (B) 76138 (type 594 on
> 100-6 and 3000s to c. 26704).  With that car, the upper reflectors were
> replaced with separate turn-signal lights (with a larger body fairing) an=
d
> amber plastic lenses and the lower lights were replaced  with tail/brake
> lights with red plastic lenses. Both upper and lower lights on these
> later cars were Lucas type 692 through the end of production.>
>
>
>
> Did anyone else notice in the very first photo the right front wing wheel
> opening?  The metal work looks a bit inconsistent and the opening is not
> consistently round? Compare to the right rear wheel opening.  Maybe it's
> the angle of the photo, I don't know?  The left front opening looks much
> better.
>
>
>
> All this said, it's easy to pick a car apart and overall, any criticisms
> can be repaired, albeit at a cost, but then the high bid of $67.5K may
> reflect these observations. It is an overall good looking car none the
> less, even with its flaws.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:45 AM Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, I'm glad you have it in the registry.
> Someone told me on Saturday at the Hershey car show that it was restored
> there, but I didn't know for sure, so didn't want to credit/blame them.
> It appears that leather seat covers were installed, but not very well as
> someone else mentioned.
>
>
> > On October 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Charlie Baldwin:  strange that I never received your original message
> via the list (yet).
> >
> > Yes, I have the car in the registry.  One previous owner recorded in Ne=
w
> Hampshire (AHCA member 1990 - 1999), then restoration by Knut Holzer's BM=
C
> Classics in April 2008.
> >
> > Steve Byers
> > HBJ8L/36666
> > BJ8 Registry
> > AHCA Delegate at Large
> > Havelock, NC
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> Spidell
> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:44 PM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
> >
> > Not MGB, but 'champagne.'  Was that an original color?  This one came
> > from the factory in white; maybe that's why it didn't sell?
> >
> > Not the best seat upholstery I've seen, and is the shift lever bent, or
> > is it an illusion?  And the fluid reservoir spoils an otherwise nice
> > engine bay presentation.  Nice car, nonetheless.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On 10/14/2018 8:17 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote:
> > > Here is a Metallic Golden Beige BJ8 that was in the auction, but
> > > apparently didn't make reserve.  I think the hammer price was
> > > $67,500.  Comments anyone?  Steve Byers, is this one in your register=
?
> > >
> > >
> https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1965-austin-he=
aley-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386
> > >
> > >
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is that a body # or vin #? My understanding was vin# were=
 only stamped on BJ8s<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Er=
bs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2=
:06 AM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lach=
lan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_8125=
70778068145361WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>That=E2=80=99s wro=
ng. My MkII BT7 certainly does. Can=E2=80=99t remember about the Mk Is etc.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Bill Bolton, Mr Trica=
rb himself, was always very keen to get those numbers for his archive.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>The numbers are fairly har=
d to access unless the front end is pretty much stripped down. <u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>See attached. Not mine. Can=E2=80=
=99t remember whose=E2=80=A6.maybe Bill sent it to me to show where to look=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>He pointed out that =
they can get virtually lost under a few coats of paint.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<b=
r><b>Sent:</b> 16 October 2018 18:31<br><b>To:</b> Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">m=
gcharlie@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auct=
ion<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BT7 3000s did not have the # stamped on the sho=
ck towers.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><=
u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<u></u><u></u></p><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Portland,OR<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0__=
_____<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span><u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT=
7 engine and disk brakes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1967 MGB =C2=A0<img id=3D"m_81257=
0778068145361_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/asse=
ts/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#333333">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario=
 Andretti</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please =
excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<u></u><u></u></p></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:mgcharlie@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgcharlie@co=
mcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border=
:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left=
:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p>From what I understand, earlier 3000s have=
 a number stamped there, but it doesn&#39;t match any other other number on=
 the car, but BJ8s do have the chassis number there.<u></u><u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10=
/15/2018 8:06 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So Charlie, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, 3000s =
should have the chassis number stamped on the right front shock tower.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">To be clear, Phase I BJ8&#39;s (1964) looke=
d very similar to BJ7&#39;s.=C2=A0 They had <u>glass</u> &quot;Beehive&quot=
; front parking/side and rear stop lights, reflectors, the pull versus the =
push-button door handles and the lower rear axle.=C2=A0 They DID have the w=
ood dash and of course the larger engine making them BJ8s not BJ7s.<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here&#39;s a nice example in Black w/red interio=
r...=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.e=
rclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=3D1&amp;slide=3D13" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-=
3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=3D1&amp;slide=3D13</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Now Phase II BJ8&#39;s came in a number of variations.=C2=A0 When the=
y first came out in 1964-5 they now had the single plastic lights front and=
 rear with the reflectors, the jacked up rear end, and push button door han=
dles.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here&#39;s another nice exa=
mple in Black w/red interior...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=
=3D"https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-h=
ealey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https:=
//rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-healey-3000=
-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In &#39;66 and &=
#39;67 we have the final version with all plastic lights, two front and two=
 rear.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One final example in Black over Re=
d w/ a red interior...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https:/=
/www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinheal=
ey-3000-544721</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This should clear thin=
gs up.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Curt<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgc=
harlie@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgcharlie@comcast.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;=
border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt=
;margin-right:0cm"><div><p>So Curt, you may be saying that this car does no=
t match what a car with that chassis number should look like.=C2=A0 Don&#39=
;t BJ8s have the chassis number stamped on the right front shock mount?=C2=
=A0 So it may be titled with the wrong chassis number.=C2=A0 That is a grea=
ter concern to me than being the wrong color or having poorly fitting seat =
covers.=C2=A0 The poorly stamped chassis number plate could be part of the =
issue also.<u></u><u></u></p><p>When I saw it on the screen when it came up=
 for auction, I thought that it probably isn&#39;t really a &#39;65 due to =
the double parking/ts lights.=C2=A0 Then I figured it was just an error on =
the year they put on the title.=C2=A0 But this is much more serious an issu=
e since the chassis number does not indicate it is a Phase 2 BJ8, when it d=
efinitely looks like one.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Charlie<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1=
0/15/2018 1:04 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote s=
tyle=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">FWIW...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Obviously, there are some issues=
 with this car.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regarding the seat=
s, I agree, the fit is terrible and that also brings up another issue in th=
at the vast majority of US delivered convertibles came with vinyl interiors=
, and it was a very rare option to have leather seats. I don&#39;t know the=
 percentage off the top of my head, but it may have been less than 5%.=C2=
=A0 I will check.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"m_812570=
778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262=
gmail-fontstyle0"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bookman=
OldStyle&quot;,serif;color:black">&lt;Leather on BJ8=E2=80=99s was an optio=
n on home market cars (England). Very few original American LHD BJ8 have be=
en observed with leather seats --=C2=A0</span></span><span class=3D"m_81257=
0778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-153292076448907926=
2gmail-fontstyle2"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al-BoldMT&quot;,serif;color:black">=E2=80=9CLeather trim for seats, armrest=
 and rear folding squabs=E2=80=9D </span></b></span><span class=3D"m_812570=
778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262=
gmail-fontstyle0"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bookman=
OldStyle&quot;,serif;color:black">was listed as an available option for BJ8=
&#39;s.&gt;</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For me the bigg=
est potential issue is that this car is supposedly a 1965 (chassis no. <u>3=
0659</u>), and as such it would have had the single plastic side lights up =
front and also in the rear, with reflectors instead of the second set of am=
ber plastic turn signal lights?=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">From the 2018 Guidelines...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span clas=
s=3D"m_812570778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-2897248659280525698m-153292=
0764489079262gmail-fontstyle0"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;BookmanOldStyle&quot;,serif;color:black">&lt;</span></span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;BookmanOldStyle&quot;,serif;color:b=
lack">BJ8s from Car No. 26705 have a single front parking/turn flasher unit=
 with a=C2=A0white plastic lens that is larger and flatter in profile (Luca=
s type 692), up=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_812570778068145361m-35090054149546371=
05m-2897248659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0">through Phase=
 II BJ8 (C) <u>31337</u> (B) 76137.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span class=3D"m_812570778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-28972486=
59280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;BookmanOldStyle&quot;,serif;color:black">Rear comb=
ination tail/turn signal/brake lights with a single beehive-shaped red lens=
, on the fender just above the bumper, were used on all Healeys up to Phase=
 II BJ8 Car No. <u>31336</u> (B) 76138 (type 594 on 100-6 and 3000s to c. 2=
6704).=C2=A0 With that car, the upper reflectors were replaced with separat=
e turn-signal lights (with a larger body fairing) and amber plastic lenses =
and the lower lights were=C2=A0</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;BookmanOldStyle&quot;,serif;color:black">replaced=C2=A0=
=C2=A0with tail/brake lights with red plastic lenses. Both upper and lower =
lights=C2=A0<span class=3D"m_812570778068145361m-3509005414954637105m-28972=
48659280525698m-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0">on these later cars we=
re Lucas type 692 through the end of production.&gt;</span></span><u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Did anyone else notice in the very first ph=
oto the right front wing wheel opening?=C2=A0 The metal work looks a bit in=
consistent and the opening is not consistently round? Compare to the right =
rear wheel opening.=C2=A0 Maybe it&#39;s the angle of the photo, I don&#39;=
t know?=C2=A0 The left front opening looks much better.<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">All this said, it&#39;s easy to pick a car apart and overall=
, any criticisms can be repaired, albeit at a cost, but then the high bid o=
f $67.5K may reflect these observations. It is an overall good looking car =
none the less, even with its flaws.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheer=
s,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Curt<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:45 AM Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgch=
arlie@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgcharlie@comcast.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;b=
order-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;=
margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ste=
ve, I&#39;m glad you have it in the registry.<br>Someone told me on Saturda=
y at the Hershey car show that it was restored there, but I didn&#39;t know=
 for sure, so didn&#39;t want to credit/blame them.<br>It appears that leat=
her seat covers were installed, but not very well as someone else mentioned=
.<br><br><br>&gt; On October 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">sbyers@ec.rr.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Charlie Baldwin:=C2=A0 strange=
 that I never received your original message via the list (yet).<br>&gt; <b=
r>&gt; Yes, I have the car in the registry.=C2=A0 One previous owner record=
ed in New Hampshire (AHCA member 1990 - 1999), then restoration by Knut Hol=
zer&#39;s BMC Classics in April 2008.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Steve Byers<br>&gt; =
HBJ8L/36666<br>&gt; BJ8 Registry<br>&gt; AHCA Delegate at Large<br>&gt; Hav=
elock, NC=C2=A0 <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----Original Message--=
---<br>&gt; From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell<br>&gt; Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:4=
4 PM<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re: [Heale=
ys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Not MGB, but &#39;champagne.=
&#39;=C2=A0 Was that an original color?=C2=A0 This one came <br>&gt; from t=
he factory in white; maybe that&#39;s why it didn&#39;t sell?<br>&gt; <br>&=
gt; Not the best seat upholstery I&#39;ve seen, and is the shift lever bent=
, or <br>&gt; is it an illusion?=C2=A0 And the fluid reservoir spoils an ot=
herwise nice <br>&gt; engine bay presentation.=C2=A0 Nice car, nonetheless.=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Bob<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 10/14/2018 8:17 AM, Char=
lie Baldwin wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Here is a Metallic Golden Beige BJ8 that wa=
s in the auction, but <br>&gt; &gt; apparently didn&#39;t make reserve.=C2=
=A0 I think the hammer price was <br>&gt; &gt; $67,500.=C2=A0 Comments anyo=
ne?=C2=A0 Steve Byers, is this one in your register?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &=
gt; <a href=3D"https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1=
965-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
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